BeoVision 7-40 Mark III - Customer Review

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It seems that a number of us have now received our Mark III BV-7-40 televisions so it seems a good time to start a review of this set and get some general feedaback as to what people think.

  • What are your initial reactions?
  • Does the TV meet your expectations?
  • Is it a marked improvement over the Mark II?
  • What DVD films have you noticed an improvement on in terms of upscaling?
  • New LED and Sound?
  • Other comments...

I have noticed a slight improvement between the Mark II and the Mark III when watching digital channels through Sky. I have played DVDs recorded from the 70s and 80s which include Fawlty Towers, Only Fools and Horses and more recent footage such as James Last in concert which was recorded earlier in the year at the Royal Albert Hall and Cirque Du Soleil recorded 2 years ago. None of them seem any different to the Mark II and in fact on some of the more recent ones the Root Menu looks awful with terrible pixelation, although the film itself is better when you start playing it. I accept that you can't upscale/improve footage recorded on earlier cameras so what would be a good DVD film to use that would show the superb upscaling that this new set is supposed to incorporate? I have also watched Planet Earth and The Blue Planet with no difference in quality between the Mark II and Mark III. I would really like to see something that is noticeably different.

As for the choice of white LEDs (as discussed in another post) I quite like this and think it works quite well with other B&O equipment although it seems others would prefer it to have remained red.

Watching the BBC HD freeview channel is good depending on the footage being played. Sometimes I like what I see but other times, particularly with landscape shots, it seems that the background (sky, grass, desert etc) is shaking up and down very quickly, albeit very slightly but still very noticeable. I did not notice anything like this on the Mark II so I am at a loss to explain it. I am being told that because this set is good it will show up bad footage even more so until the quality of broadcasts improves. Is this true because I struggle to accept that? It has been suggested on this forum that 1080p is not as good as 720p because of picture stretching leading to degredation. Is this the reason I am noticing things? If this is the case then why is the industry pushing 1080p forward? I don't understand.

I also find that I have to turn the volume up louder on this new set. A setting of 60 seems to be equivalent to a setting of 45-40 on the older Mark II set. Does anyone else notice this? If their is a way to change this please advise.

Generally speaking I don't find it much different to the Mark II so I am interested to hear other people's comments. I want to see evidence of the following review that gives the set 

a 5/5 review for perfomance and features.

Simon.

The marketing boys have done a wonderful job in pushing 1080 and they continue to do so becaise it sells TVs!!

 

We had a discussion before and my thoughts then was that B&O had not created the 'holy grail' of LCDs but it was probably 10% better than the MK11  and it would seem from your post thats about right.

The juddering you describe is not down to the fact that B&O have made a screen so good that it shows up all those  inadequte pictures!! with 1080 you have 45% more information to process than a standard HD screen. So HD should look slighly better but its open to debate how it handles standard broadcast material. For plasma pansaonic now support 24 frme rate panels which it transpires seem to cause more problems than they intended to solve!- in an effort to stop juddering- which some individuals notice more than others

 

The BV7 is a great product though- for an lcd but for the most part the 1080 panels now being produced for the mass market are made to a price and the only way that can be acheived is to reduce the processing power of the TV.

Interestingly I was recently involved with an associate who purchased a sony b300 blue ray and a samsung 1080 plasma- even in HD the picture was truly awfull , the inbuilt DTV a disaster- but in the trade its a 'mugs eyeful' all the specs but cant deliver. I think HD ( unless one uses a projector) is the biggest con ever perpetrated on the public, Very poor disc quality at enourmous expense, and on many dvd one cannot tell the difference between stadard upsacled dvd and HD- so one is left with a small number of trophy discs( which generally have rubbish content) to impress with true HD!

My BV7 mk3  showed a light improvement  after about a week.At present I am underwhelmed with the PQ.This is watching SD via Freview and terrestrial broadcasts.

Blacks may be better than before but with the lights out it is still 'LCD black'...meaning grey! 

Perception of depth is also pretty average [compared to the Avant] it is far from the stunning 3D that the CRT delivers.

The biggest problem I have is with pixellation,especially during panning/movement.Not impressed.This is less noticeable on good quality dvds,however. 

Fed a decent signal,I'm sure it will deliver it's potential,whatever that may be.

Very happy with the sound quality of the 7.2. So far I haven't felt the need to hook up the sub.

I did consider the Pioneer Kuro which was great with dvd/blueray but unwatchable on terrestrial [pixel-city] No doubt partly due to aeriel losses/lights etc.

I love the design and integration though.That was a big factor in my decision making process. 

If B&O offered a Kuro [BV4+?] panel,with integrated dvd/hddvd/blueray/BS3 that could be mounted on the BV7 stand for a similar price to the LCD panel,I'd go for one of those tbh.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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haha , true dat

 i'd hardly call james last in concert testing material for any a/v system

unless you're testing the listener's patience that is 

 :) 

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Hello. I am also an owner of the BV 7 40 MKIII since 4 weeks. Before I had an Avant. The picture sharpness and the colours are amazing (like the Avant before). But from the first moment I thought, there's something different and propably wrong with this TV set. So I started to test with different DVD's.

Now I realize, that the picture gets unsharp as soon as there's a little motion in there. Example: In Star Trek 9 the starship ist very sharp when I freeze the picture. When I put play now, the vessel and its contoures gets unsharp and the lights gets much longer. Example 2: The Simpsons Movie: I can see double pictures. I also see that in other films (there's the normal motion unsharpness as we know it from cinema plus the unsharpness from the panel!). 

If I go to the Media Market an look to the newest 100 Hz Solutions of Philips or Sharp, than I realize that these TV's have not such a "motion problem" as my BV 7 has. I could see that very good, because there was also the Simpson's Movie running.  So, I have the bad feeling now, that I bought the most expensive TV set on the market and get an old 60 Hz Samsung panel with it. I really trustet blind to the B&O Marketing Service that promissed, that I will get "the most advanced TV on the market." I never was disappointet by B&O products before (since 15 years). But now, I consider to wait for the next BV 7 MK IV and sell my MK III then (after testing the new MK IV of course). Or the other solution (which would hurt of course) could be to sell all B&O stuff and change the brand. I will see, what future brings.

Regards

Patrick 

 

 

 

 

Well, I am really delighted to see how honest people are about their new Beovision 7 latest version.

Not only pray stories but a plain straight look at the product. I don't have a Beovision LCD by myself but I am shocked that Bang & Olufsen seems to have motion problems and other picture disturbtions on this brand new high end pricy Beovision 7 and that other brands which cost much less don't seem to have them.

That is not what you may expect for such a high price and from a brand that calls itself premium. Can't you give it back to your dealer that it does not reach your demand of expectations?

To watch every day to a television with those trouble if you see them seems to me very hard.

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