Hey - tell you what!

Let's get the CIA involved - it appears that it almost warrants it...

What a load of old tosh. Grumpy old men. Get real.

Peter's point is that it's his to do with as he wishes. 

Wether you agree with it or not, it's not going to leave the confines of his own home - so who is he 'defrauding' ?  If you get a little brush and some black paint and write the 'Gucci' emblem all over your sofa at home, who cares? You bought the sofa, it's yours to do with as you wish, in the comfort and privacy of your own home.  Yes, technically he's ripped off a trademark - so that's the grey area.

Do I like what he's doing to the products? No - they look absolutely hideous, but that's only my opinion. The OP loves it - so fair play to him and his friends who clearly have just as little taste.  However, it's his call to make and i respect that.

The line is only crossed if he tries to sell it on. That's no grey area..

To quote Trip..

Altering a B&O product is one thing. Creating a fake is another.

What the blazes do B&O do when they get the same panel shipped in from Panasonic? Umm.. they slap a B&O frame on it and sell it as B&O. Are Bang & Olufsen guilty of creating fakes?!!  No, of course not - but it's a point to consider.

I (for the record) disagree with bribing a B&O employee to sell him a surround though !!!

I think we're now going in circles here though, so i'm not going to comment any further and suggest we all agree to disagree.. then let this thread fall off.

Lee

We are of one mind - that trip to Struer has a lot to answer for!

Kokomo wrote:

folkdeejay wrote:

For one thing - this is a HOBBYIST forum, for people who like the B&O brand ( in all aspects) ...this is NOT the official B&O website -where such draconian, holier-than-thou declarations would be more understandable - not because of any DK hubris, but because it is the "company line" that would (understandably) take priority.

But this is a fan site.  Lee(and others)  have previously re-coloured speakers and shown the mods here.  There are users here who make their own version of Beotimes, people who make their own version of cables, stands and who will "unoficially" use software to programme remotes.

All of which is fine....because that is what fan's do, and this is a fan site.

Well said 'Folky'. This is my first contribution on this discussion and I have enjoyed the energy it has provoked. It has also exposed some of the less desirable character traits and prejudices of some members which has been most illuminating (to me anyway!).

 

This thread made me really laugh...
I really do not see what the big deal is.

This site is FULL of mods !!!  From enthousiast changing colors, speaker covers, tweaking the electronics, even to changing the typical polished metal decorative plates with new (non B&O) ones..
Does it really make any of it less Bang&Olufsen ??

At least he's buying the frame from B&O and hasn't resorted to something sub standard made by 3rd party with a B&O logo on it!!! 

Comme on guys, give it a rest already.  Myself, I'm looking forward to see the end result !!!

At least we've got trip to remind us peasants ( ie his customers ) where we are in the scheme of things. Nice to feel wanted.

Personally the only problem I have with bno is the whole retail experience , I'd much rather buy it off the net like I do all my mac stuff. It's easy to set up and the only problem is getting it up the stairs.

The attitude of some sales staff beggars belief.

Absolutely right.

I have an authentic G7 BeoVision 4 screen and have wondered just how much B&O there truly is in that Panasonic-produced screen. The screen's internal IR sensor (hidden behind that brushed aluminum panel) does not react to a Beo4. Rather it reacts only to a Panasonic remote, which is necessary to access the screen's menu. The menu shows no reference to B&O or any B&O features. Rather, it brings up features that are nowhere mentioned in the B&O manuals. The input connection modules (sometimes referred to as "blades") are found by googling "Panasonic G7." I wonder if I would know the difference if the screen was replaced with another similar commercial screen by Panasonic and then adorned with the B&O frame. For that matter, would I perhaps even notice an improvement with a later generation screen directly from Panasonic? Rhetorical questions only. Just a feeling that the BeoVision 4 screen is perhaps not much more than a Panasonic screen with a B&O frame stuck on it and with a huge markup.

beojeff wrote:

Just a feeling that the BeoVision 4 screen is perhaps not much more than a Panasonic screen with a B&O frame stuck on it and with a huge markup.

Now that would be morally questionable!👍

There are several products with a B&O logo on it that have not even been produced or designed (except for the outside in some cases) by Bang & Olufsen. So these must all be fakes.......😉

!

that IR behide the frame....😭

ill have to move it to the top right so i can use the panasonic remote on the plasma.

is there a flat IR sender and receiver on the market.

so i can put the IR receiver on the top right glass bubble  and the sender behide the frame.

the Beosystem 2 dose not turn my plasma off or on.

unless there is an update software for the panasonic to get it working with  the beosystem.