Tonker wrote:

Heinz see if you can get a Beolab 11 instead of a discount. Financially it's probably the same, but having just spent a night listening to the Last night of the Proms trust me, you won't regret it. Perfect match. Beovision 10-46, Belab 11, Beosound 8, Beocom 2 and a shed load of A8's and Form 2's. Oh and a Beo4 and 6.

seheiste wrote:

I agree. Tomorrow I will order a BV10-40 to replace my BV3-32 which I bought when it was about to be discontinued. I got it for a good price, both hardware and software were of high quality. I have used this TV for over 8 years without a single problem. For the same reason I'll go for the BV10-40. It,s the most beautiful TV I've seen, fits perfectly into my link system, technically it's good enough (I don't need 3D), price is OK, and it's definitely more stable than a new model.

/Heinz

I don't like this new habit of B&O replacing products that are barely 5 years old with another new design: where is the timeless philosophy that saw products like BeoVox CX100 stay in the catalogue for 20 years, or the MX TV reach the age of 18? Even BeoLab 8000 is turning 20, and it makes me sad to see concepts like BV5 replaced by a BV9 (that could simply have become a BV5 Mk2), or even BV6 replaced by BV8, and now BV10..

Can't they simply fit the new V1 video engine inside all TVs? Without changing the whole product range? Look at the Avant, it went from curved screen and VHS to flat screen and DVD, and kept its name & looks..🙁

100% agree with christophe.

Christophe wrote:

I don't like this new habit of B&O replacing products that are barely 5 years old with another new design

I agree with this and, yes, it's confusing for two reasons:

1) Once you perfect the design, the primary interchangeable part should be the panel. If a laptop maker can build an entire PC within a laptop case, I'm sure B&O can re-design a future chassis upgrade, without having to redesign the case to accommodate. I agree that the BV10 is a great design and has 2-3 years, with panel upgrades etc, of life left.

2) Bringing out new designs means that it becomes MUCH harder to trade-in old TVs. No dealer will want a BV10, if it's replaced by a BV11 with a different design. It's not that the BV10 will look outdated, it's because it becomes harder for a dealer to keep older TVs on display and/or show potential customers how the older model compares in price against a current (BV10). Basically, if my 9 month BV10-46 is replaced this October with a BV11, the trade-in value will drop dramatically after a year of ownership. That will be unprecedented for me.

And the reason for mentioning this is simply that it's always been the core of buying B&O TV for me. Buy a B&O, keep it for about 2-3 years (where it should still be a current model), trade it in against a newer model. Newer model, after trade-in, costs about the same as a top-of-the-range Sony.

If they break this cycle, this will seriously affect how I perceive B&O TVs. For instance, say I try and trade that 1-year-old BV10-46 in, after only a year, and I receive a £3K offer and a new BV11-46 is £9000 in a year (I know we've speculated that the replacement BV10 will be cheaper, but we'll see...), I'll be stuffed. I know we shouldn't be guaranteed a trade-in, but it's always been like this for me, since 2003. Since 2003, I've traded in my B&O every 2-3 years, with success. Dealer gets a well looked after, mint, top-of-the-range current TV, I walk away after paying £2500-£3000, with an installed replacement, with much improved panel.

moxxey wrote:

I agree with this and, yes, it's confusing for two reasons:

1) Once you perfect the design, the primary interchangeable part should be the panel. If a laptop maker can build an entire PC within a laptop case, I'm sure B&O can re-design a future chassis upgrade, without having to redesign the case to accommodate. I agree that the BV10 is a great design and has 2-3 years, with panel upgrades etc, of life left.

2) Bringing out new designs means that it becomes MUCH harder to trade-in old TVs. No dealer will want a BV10, if it's replaced by a BV11 with a different design. It's not that the BV10 will look outdated, it's because it becomes harder for a dealer to keep older TVs on display and/or show potential customers how the older model compares in price against a current (BV10). Basically, if my 9 month BV10-46 is replaced this October with a BV11, the trade-in value will drop dramatically after a year of ownership. That will be unprecedented for me.

And the reason for mentioning this is simply that it's always been the core of buying B&O TV for me. Buy a B&O, keep it for about 2-3 years (where it should still be a current model), trade it in against a newer model. Newer model, after trade-in, costs about the same as a top-of-the-range Sony.

If they break this cycle, this will seriously affect how I perceive B&O TVs. For instance, say I try and trade that 1-year-old BV10-46 in, after only a year, and I receive a £3K offer and a new BV11-46 is £9000 in a year (I know we've speculated that the replacement BV10 will be cheaper, but we'll see...), I'll be stuffed. I know we shouldn't be guaranteed a trade-in, but it's always been like this for me, since 2003. Since 2003, I've traded in my B&O every 2-3 years, with success. Dealer gets a well looked after, mint, top-of-the-range current TV, I walk away after paying £2500-£3000, with an installed replacement, with much improved panel.

Schlaumeier wrote:

Yes, it is a wonderful tv. i've bought a new white 10-40 last month without caring about an upcoming new chassis (only rumours as well). no problems with software, picture or sound. just nice and good looking overall for now and (at least) the next ten years! Beste Grüße / Best regards

Schlaumeier

Setup Livingroom: BeoVision 10-40, BeoLab 6000, BeoLab 11, Ouverture, Apple TV, Airport Express, 5 x LC2.

Other Rooms: 3 x BeoSound 8, BeoVision 8-26, MX 8000, 2 x MX 4002, 2 x Keyring, Airport Express

seheiste wrote:

On Friday I'll get my brand new BV 10-40. What an exciting weekend!