BeoSystem 3 and Apple TV 2

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HDCP is in passthrough mode in the Beosystem 3 - so that isn't the problem - and i'd hesitate on buying a new box - specially as it downscales unnecessarily for your needs. The issue with the avant is different as it is the downscaler box that needs to have an active HDCP key as it is a terminator (and not really legal :) ).

 

One thing I'd suggest is to go into the customer menu (MENU, MENU, move to OPTION, then press RED then GO) and check that the monitor output is set to 60hz - it may be that your screen is rebelling against the input from the Beosystem 3. 

frog wrote:

One thing I'd suggest is to go into the customer menu (MENU, MENU, move to OPTION, then press RED then GO) and check that the monitor output is set to 60hz - it may be that your screen is rebelling against the input from the Beosystem 3. 

 

hi frog, that i have already done, the monitor output is at 60Hz. On the other hand, i have already 2 other inputs (a bluery player and a settop box), both are using a hdmi-input on the BS3 and they are working fine. So, this must be something between the ATV2 and ther BS3.

 

wood wrote:

On the other hand, i have already 2 other inputs (a bluery player and a settop box), both are using a hdmi-input on the BS3 and they are working fine. So, this must be something between the ATV2 and ther BS3.

Yesterday you said you tried different sources, with no succes..

sorry, must be a misunderstanding: yes, i have tried different sources/connectors at the BS3 with ATV2 (on the hdmi-input A i have a settop-box, on the hdmi-input B i habe a bd-player, at the hdmi-input C i have connected the ATV2. The settop-box and the BD-player are working fine, ATV2 ist "dark" (audio ist working, but no video).

sorry again for this unclear explanation from my side.

Fredy

Maybe a swap of the ATV2? I have seen in the Apple forums that some customers have been able to swap theirs out and it cleared up the issue. Additionally, you may try to set your BS3 into Framelock - Double Buffer as another work around......(red + go while on options then select picture adjustments).... I seem to remember that working on the old ATV1 with the old BV7's, but that was a B&O screen.......

BeoMegaMan wrote:
Additionally, you may try to set your BS3 into Framelock - Double Buffer as another work around......(red + go while on options then select picture adjustments).... I seem to remember that working on the old ATV1 with the old BV7's, but that was a B&O screen.......

Dear BeoMegaMan, now it works, i'm happy and i thank you and all other replyers in the forum for their help. I have set the Framelock to Double Buffer.

Many thanks und best regards from Switzerland

Fredy

no problem, glad I could be of service

Nice! πŸ™‚

frog wrote:

HDCP is in passthrough mode in the Beosystem 3 - so that isn't the problem - and i'd hesitate on buying a new box - specially as it downscales unnecessarily for your needs. The issue with the avant is different as it is the downscaler box that needs to have an active HDCP key as it is a terminator (and not really legal :) ).

 

The use of a down scale convertor is not illegal. HDCP is concerned with the transmission of protected content in HDMI and the possible use of a recording device using the HDMI signal. The convertor in question is not striping the HDCP for use in HDMI signals, it is downscaling the signal and converting to composite (analog) which is a non-issue for HDCP, because HDCP is only concerned with HDMI.

The major legal issue with HDCP is that it is preventing the concept of fair use for individuals. This is interesting because the ever lowering cost of renting and purchasing content really renders the idea of recording anything fairly mote and I cannot see why anyone wants to record content. The addition of iCloud makes it even easier to protect and access your purchases.

In the case of the ATV2, the issue at hand is how the device is reacting to the downscaler, and this is a solution that actually works as found by trial and error. I get a real kick out of people that have not tried to use the convertor, and post their opinion that it won’t work, as I am watching the ATV2 through the Avant, which is really the only reason that I needed the convertor in the first place. Nothing more, nothing less.

 

The issue is the key. The HDCP licensors (the studios) do not give a key to manufacturers of such a device - the manufacturers re-use one that is meant for a legitimate use. Technically, the HDCP Licensors could disable the key - but this hasn't happened yet (and is unlikely). The use of the key on devices not identified to the licensors is prohibited. That's what I meant. The use of a downscaler is not necessarily illegal - but then I didn't say that in the first place.

Recording video is still an issue for the licensors because video does have a complex set of release windows (both in time and region).

iCloud does not support accessing of video (yet) - only audio and other documents and settings.

I've used a downscaler on an ATV2 and it works fine. It is useful in a HDMI-based solution because it can also distribute downscaled video via the link system (RF) to other rooms.

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