CheapB wrote:

I think I am on SW 4.5, so I would love to be able to upgrade the software myself as well. Anyone??

It would be amazing to upgrade the software myself too. So far I haven't had much luck. Maybe someone here has the answer? 

mobilett wrote:

I connected the bs1 datacable to a gender changer, and plugged it into the serial port of an old laptop running windows. Yes, it's the same cable, but a gender changer is required.

I dont use the dataport, and I don't have the USB type B/DB9 cable. I was trying to use a regular Type A/B USB cable, but it was not recognized. Is there a way to use a standard USB cable for this? or alternatively anyone who has a pinout of the cable connections? IF so I would be happy to test..

CheapB wrote:

mobilett wrote:

I connected the bs1 datacable to a gender changer, and plugged it into the serial port of an old laptop running windows. Yes, it's the same cable, but a gender changer is required.

I dont use the dataport, and I don't have the USB type B/DB9 cable. I was trying to use a regular Type A/B USB cable, but it was not recognized. Is there a way to use a standard USB cable for this? or alternatively anyone who has a pinout of the cable connections? IF so I would be happy to test..

A regular USB cable won't work. You'll need the B&O usb->serial cable. I believe it's not even actually a usb port on the BS1 side, it's just a serial port. Not sure the reason behind the USB-style connector. I'd guess the updates are all over serial at 9600 baud. Have you found the service manual for the BS1? There might be some info on the pinout there?

mobilett wrote:

A regular USB cable won't work. You'll need the B&O usb->serial cable. I believe it's not even actually a usb port on the BS1 side, it's just a serial port. Not sure the reason behind the USB-style connector. I'd guess the updates are all over serial at 9600 baud. Have you found the service manual for the BS1? There might be some info on the pinout there?

I just dug up the service manual.

Pin1  - Interlock Sense, 200 kohms, (the port will not work unless vpin1 > 5.5v or < -0.5v)

Pin2 - RS232 Data out

Pin3 - RS232 Data in

Pin4 - GND

So i get Pin2,3,4 and know how to assign this to the DB9, but I am not sure about pin1. "vpin1" may just be a typo for pin1 - there are several typos in the manual, but I am not sure if the BS1 is expecting a voltage or if it is providing. and is states the port will not work without the voltage in place..

If you have a multimeter, can you test which pin on the DB9 the pin1 on the USB is assigned to? Actually just in case it would be great if you could provide this for all four to make sure.  the DB9 typically have a "1" next to the first pin if you are not familiar with pin numbers.

CheapB wrote:

mobilett wrote:

A regular USB cable won't work. You'll need the B&O usb->serial cable. I believe it's not even actually a usb port on the BS1 side, it's just a serial port. Not sure the reason behind the USB-style connector. I'd guess the updates are all over serial at 9600 baud. Have you found the service manual for the BS1? There might be some info on the pinout there?

I just dug up the service manual.

Pin1  - Interlock Sense, 200 kohms, (the port will not work unless vpin1 > 5.5v or < -0.5v)

Pin2 - RS232 Data out

Pin3 - RS232 Data in

Pin4 - GND

So i get Pin2,3,4 and know how to assign this to the DB9, but I am not sure about pin1. "vpin1" may just be a typo for pin1 - there are several typos in the manual, but I am not sure if the BS1 is expecting a voltage or if it is providing. and is states the port will not work without the voltage in place..

If you have a multimeter, can you test which pin on the DB9 the pin1 on the USB is assigned to? Actually just in case it would be great if you could provide this for all four to make sure.  the DB9 typically have a "1" next to the first pin if you are not familiar with pin numbers.

Sure I'll give it a shot later tonight, if my multimeter works..