You beat me too it was just about to post the same thing!

 

Saw that video yesterday and it's very good.

I enjoyed watching it BUT I don't agree with anything in it! Simply because, it is aimed at one type of customer only and that is the traditional, older listener, which is fair enough but the first two minutes, I could not agree with a single thing that the guy was talking about. 11 year olds have iPhones now. It's their way of life. It's easy! I don't think that it's ever been so easy to access music now. That iPhone connects to your car, you can take it to the bathroom with you, you can stream it to your Bluetooth speaker, you can stream it to your TV. Sorry, but i've had so much music! We have DJ's who walk into the studio, have Pioneer Rekordbox app on their iPhone and simply connect the iPhone to the Pioneer CDJ players and do their whole evening show this way. There's also a huge number of late teens to 20/30 somethings that use SoundCloud and MixCloud music streaming apps which are nothing like Deezer for instance!

And I really don't agree with him when he said that the BeoSound 9000 was the best CD player ever. For me, thats the Pioneer CDJ range or early Technics models that were bomb proof! But hey, he's a sales guy making a video.

What you explain is how access to music today usually is scattered over multiple apps on devices, that are used for many other things, than just for experiencing music. 

Some - and it seems that are amongst those - prefer that way of picking their music --- which is absolutely ok.

Others are fed up with trying out different 'solutions' and 'combinations of ways' to find, what they prefer to listen to. They want an easier access - and they want it from a device, that is dedicated for music. They don't want to push yet another button (the AirPlay- or bluetooth-one) and they don't want to have to activate a specific input on their audiosystem, before the music can be heard over their bigger speakers (and not just over the speaker of their mobile device).

The BeoSound Moment is, what B&O offers to those people!

From your point of view he might be 'the sales guy' - for others he is 'the guy, who explains', what was the reason for creating the BS Moment music solution.

As for the comment on 'the best CD player ever' ---- I am sure, that he was not talking about this from a technical point of view. He was talking more of the user aspect/the way of experiencing music at the time, when the physical disc was the prefered medium.

You don't want/need this kind of solution - obvisiously.

I am sure there will be other 'costumers', that will find this way of enjoying music rather intriguing?

Time will tell, if B&O had their finger on the pulse with this BeoSound.

MM

For all round qualities, looks, sound, magic I could go on!!!

There is NOTHING to compare to the BS9000.

The Moment, once the totally CRAP user interface is sorted, will be a winner too.

Very good. I find this an enlightening talk about the concept B&O had in mind when developing the Moment.

What I miss is the "make the music visible and accessible" part in the Moment which was referred to when talking about the BS9000.

Now I try to use my Avant for that, as there is no digital BS9000 concept available.

But it is rudimentary in terms of usability, not the excellence I hoped for.

One keeps hoping on better software and apps.

For instance, why does the BeoMusic app not work with the Avant? Is there a technical limitation, or is this just a marketing choice?

Flere wrote:

Very good. I find this an enlightening talk about the concept B&O had in mind when developing the Moment.

What I miss is the "make the music visible and accessible" part in the Moment which was referred to when talking about the BS9000.

 Now I try to use my Avant for that, as there is no digital BS9000 concept available.

 But it is rudimentary in terms of usability, not the excellence I hoped for.

One keeps hoping on better software and apps.  

For instance, why does the BeoMusic app not work with the Avant? Is there a technical limitation, or is this just a marketing choice?

 

I really wish B&O would publish some sort of overall vision/plan of how and when it is all meant to come together into some sort of "whole"!

There's the (long) mentioned promise of Netlink (still to realise it's potential), Apps that work with some products and not others (and offer features not even included in it's latest "flagship" network audio player/streamer), meaning a multitude of interfaces offering different GUI's and features, not to mention the Beo4/Beo5/6 etc. Portable products that were all about Apple and have now swerved to Bluetooth. WISA but no multiroom player ........and so it goes on!

Either they are making it up as they are going along or else they are working to some genius masterplan (or, more likely, something inbetween).

All I'm asking is a glimpse into the future (not a wishlist mind you, but something based on the products already under development) that demonstrates all of this seemingly mish-mash haphazard product introduction will bloom into a fully featured, obsolescence proof "Masterlink system for the future", simply configurable and controllable with all features available on one single controller and at what point products available "today" will not be cast aside and become useless in this future of "oneness".

It's not too much to ask, is it????

Fascinating to hear the thought processes behind the Moment. Gives a whole new perspective. True it doesn't have the physical presence of a BS9000 but how could it? For me, my BL18's now have the real visual impact that my 9000 used to have. They get all the "wow" type comments when people come round. I can definitely see me getting a Moment when the software has settled down. But I would expect that to take at least six months from launch as I would for any new concept that is software-based.

Duels wrote:

But I would expect that to take at least six months from launch as I would for any new concept that is software-based.

Why??  Do you wait six months before buying a car in case the anti-lock brakes don't work or the air bags go off on their own? While it may be true that this is how B&O are operating I say it is unacceptable and shouldn't be allowed to become the norm!

It isn't inevitable and it shouldn't be acceptable!