Beoremote Halo can now control ML devices!

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After quite a few emails back and forth with B&O support and I suppose some assistance from Khimo, the Beoremote Halo can now finally control MasterLink devices that are connected via a BLC NL/ML Converter. The latest B&O app update now allows us to select NL/ML Converters as products to show up for control by the Halo.

This is amazing. Now, we can start a CD playing on the Beosound 9000 (even without speakers) and then JOIN that source from any other device using the Halo. We can also control playback using the Halo. This is a big step forward for full integration, but it's still not perfect yet. Here are the issues:

1. ML video sources via the NL/ML Converter still have the old basic control screen and not the new video control screen (with the four color buttons).

2. We still need a way to select which CD to play on the Beosound 9000. The basic control screen just lets us move back and forward between tracks.

3. Matrix sources do not appear in the sources.

Hopefully, it could be an easy fix for B&O to at least let us select the type of control screen to use so that we can choose to use the video control screen for those sources for which we need the extra control. Still, for me this is a joyous day!

I feel like I'm being ungrateful in adding to my wish list. Yet.....:

1. We need to be able in the B&O app to change the order in which the devices appear on the Halo list. E.g., it makes more sense for the BeoSystem 4 to appear first on my living room Halo, but it makes more sense for my BeoVision 10 to appear first on my bedroom Halo.

2. For at least the BLC NL/ML and the BeoSystem 4, ALL sources are visible on the Halo -- even if we have those sources marked as hidden. We should be able to hide the sources we don't use. Also we should be able to change the order the sources appear on the Halo list.

This function requires a BLI, correct? And is it just audio sources, or for instance could it start music from a Core via a converter to speakers connected to a BV10?

Edit…..It works to turn on the audio sources through the BV10 without the BLI….just tried it….very cool. Now volume control of course. Would a BLI enable that?

Razlaw wrote:
This function requires a BLI, correct? And is it just audio sources, or for instance could it start music from a Core via a converter to speakers connected to a BV10?

Nope. This does not require a BLI. The BLC NL/ML converters are now recognized as devices the Halo can control and add to its list of devices.

My sources from my BeoSound Moment that are integrated with the BeoVision 10 via a BLC NL/ML converter are there, too! However, ALL sources show up, such as QPlay -- which is useless in the U.S. -- appear. Even though we have only certain sources selected on the NL/ML Converter to show up as available on NL, ALL sources still show up. This was similarly a problem with the BeoSystem 4.

BTW, I had an earlier response from B&O support that it was IMPOSSIBLE to control the NL/ML Converter with the Halo. That person from support said that it was impossible because the NL/ML Converter had no sources. I replied and pointed out that it was the entire purpose of the NL/ML converter to make sources available on NL from the ML side.

beojeff wrote:

BTW, I had an earlier response from B&O support that it was IMPOSSIBLE to control the NL/ML Converter with the Halo. That person from support said that it was impossible because the NL/ML Converter had no sources. I replied and pointed out that it was the entire purpose of the NL/ML converter to make sources available on NL from the ML side.

Thanks! Tried it and it works. I guess it will only work for the Master Link device that is set as Master? And no ability to control volume, unfortunately. Would a BLI add volume control and/or ability to control ML products in two different rooms?

Also, and please forgive my lack of knowledge about the converter….I believe I could connect a pair of speakers directly to the converter? If I did that, would I be able to control those speakers with a Halo? Would it include volume for those two? Would I still have another option in the Halo to control the 1s connected to the 10 as I can now?

Razlaw wrote:
beojeff wrote:

 

BTW, I had an earlier response from B&O support that it was IMPOSSIBLE to control the NL/ML Converter with the Halo. That person from support said that it was impossible because the NL/ML Converter had no sources. I replied and pointed out that it was the entire purpose of the NL/ML converter to make sources available on NL from the ML side.

 

 

Thanks! Tried it and it works. I guess it will only work for the Master Link device that is set as Master? And no ability to control volume, unfortunately. Would a BLI add volume control and/or ability to control ML products in two different rooms?

I tested and see that you're right: there's no volume control. For example, I can select a source on my BeoSystem 3 with connected speakers, but can't control the volume.

A separate NL/ML converter would be needed to make any former ML link room its own node on the NL system -- just like on the app.

beojeff wrote:

The latest B&O app update now allows us to select NL/ML Converters as products to show up for control by the Halo.

Sounds great, only I cannot make the BLC NL/ML appear on the device list for Halo. 😂 It persistenly shows only the Stage (that it controls) and the A9 in the bedroom (that it doesn't currently). 

Meanwhile, BLC NL/ML is normally present on my home network and the B&O app sees it, actually right now I am playing one CD via multiroom on my A9 controlled through the app. Really confusing. 😁 But certainly looking forward to hearing more of your findouts Jeff while I try to make it work for me too. 👍

AnalogPlanet wrote:
Sounds great, only I cannot make the BLC NL/ML appear on the device list for Halo. 😂
Same over here............

until I chanced the setting of one of my BLC from ASlave to VMaster (and back). Suddenly they appeared!

 

the ML sources are shown, but not the BLC line in.

 

Note: with BLI I already have complete access within my setup.

In the meantime, I managed to fundamentally f**k up the BLC, after endless power offs, factory resets and other "tricks" while trying to make itself shown in the Halo devices list, now it is in endless green-led-blinking mode... well, update, moved to orange LOL. Which means bringing it to the service center one pf next days, hopefully they can get it to work again. 😁

Anyway, ontopic: that Halo/BLC/BLI combo seems to be expanding on usability and variety of creative ways to incorporate existing products and control and automate them. Wow, amazing, can't wait to see how it develops!

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