Beomedia 1 questions (and an interesting finding...)

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Hi

I have just bought a Beomedia 1.  It was faulty but that is now solved (new caps in PSU and DC-DC converter) and I have spent a day or two playing around to see if it is worth keeping.

I performed a factory restore and then did the updates.  It is now at Software version 3.02 & OS update version 3.05

Q1:  Who provides the OS updates?  B&O or Microsoft?  You cannot request them like the Software updates and they only seem to be pushed to the machine under certain circumstances.  Does anybody know the mechanism behind this?  Does anyone have later software than this?

It is actually quite a nice little box.  I installed K-Lite_Codec_Pack_670_Standard without its default Media player and selected all video and audio file formats and Microsoft Media player as the default and now it appears to play anything I throw at it 😁

I spend a lot of time trying to get the B&O software it to access a USB stick and my external NAS box but despite trying lots of devious means, the B&O software always appears to know when you are trying to access a mapped network drive.  I did however succeed to get the software to access video and audio files on my USB stick.  This involved the use of NTFS junction points created with a 3rd party utility but works seamlessly.  The external drive would need to be permanently connected but it does at least owners to add extra storage without opening the box ❓

Q2: Has anybody managed to get the software to play networked files?

I read on the forums that B&O may add NAS access to the Beomaster 5 at some point in the future.

Q3: What chance is there that they would back port the change to Beomedia 1? 👍

Regards and Happy New Year!

Richard

 

Location: Netherlands

So, you got it working? 😁 Good Job!

Q1: B&O provides the updates. Once a week the BM1 contacts the B&O server and gets info whether an update is available.

Q2: only through manipulating windows register it should be possible.

Expanding the BM1 with a larger disk (i.e. 1 TB) is also an option and can be done yourself.

Q3: none I think. As the BM 5 has covers based on an improved BM1 platform, they never implemented that in the BM1.

Location: Utrecht

Quite a challenge to achieve "Less is More" while having the Beovirus.

Well Beobuddy, I took your advice and have attempted to upgrade the harddisk to a 2TB Samsung SATA using a PATA/SATA converter (the type that fits on the back of the drive).  I have a disk image of the device that I have already tested by using it to create another smaller IDE and then going through the complete restore update cycle and I used this same backup image again to create the image on the SATA disk but when trying to boot this new disk there is a problem.  The BM1 just hangs 🤔

I tried a restore from the restore partition but that just hangs too.

I investigated this using safe mode (eventually boots after timing out whilst trying to load classpnp.sys) and by adding /sos to the boot.ini file and it turns out that both the main image and restore are hanging when they try to load classpnp.sys.

Googling classpnp.sys and XPe returns hits from people changing disk types with XPe when their XPe image has not been built with the correct driver (motherboards that support IDE and SATA disks) but I don't understand how that can be my problem because the new drive's  type (SATA) should effectively be hidden by the PATA/SATA converter.

Question 1: Exactly which SATA drive and converter type did you use?

Question 2: The BIOS of the BM1 is not the latest available.  Did you upgrade yours?  What version is your BIOS?

Any other suggestions...?

PS: Sombody here

Location: Netherlands

Sounds familiar. Took me some hours to find out.

 

If you made an image from the old disk to the new disk, you've probably noticed that there are 4! partitions.

3 of them have driveletter C, D and E (data). So, you probably have a new C, D a very large E, and a small 1 or 2 GB partition at the end of the disk. No need to expand that partition.

The fourth partition is dynamically linked to a folder in the data partition.

I have to look it up, but it was something like BM-System.

You will find this folder still in your data partition.

You have to delete this folder! Then make a new dynamic link from the fourth partition to a new BM-System folder on your data partition.

You will notice, that entering that folder, you actually enter the fourth partition.

Now you can start a recovery. You will see that the installation will succeed.

Location: Utrecht

Quite a challenge to achieve "Less is More" while having the Beovirus.

Thanks for getting back to me.  Copying the original disk/image to an IDE drive is no problem, it works and more importantly, it works if your perform a recovery from the recovery partition with the new drive too.  However, if I make a copy from the same source (disk or image) to a SATA drive it does not work; attempting to boot either the Beomedia or Beomedia Recovery partition hangs windows whilst it is loading drivers (Windows must fully boot before the Beomedia Software starts).  In both cases this is during the Windows splash screen at the point windows tries to load classpnp.sys.  I can see this because I edited the boot.ini file to see the drivers as they are loaded (/sos).


What was the model number of the SATA disk you managed to get working?  I think this is important because I think windows is failing when loading drivers because it cannot find the right protected mode driver for the disk that it finds attached.  Plain vanilla Windows XP has all generic drivers available but crucially Windows XPe is built specifically by a vendor (B&O in this case) with the drivers it needs for the hardware that the image is to be executed on.  B&O did not include the driver for big SATA disks because either it did not exist or they did not need it, hence when you connect one Windows cannot start....

Regards
Richard

Location: Netherlands

I still think that you have an unfinished recovery.

Windows doesn't need drivers for the sata/pata converter and if the BM1 starts windows on your sata disk, then it recognizes the disk also.

So, again I strongly suggest that you investigate the folder BM-systems on your data partition. Delete it and make a new one.

It must be possible to start in windows safe mode (F8) and repair the folder.

Make sure the fourth partition exists with the system files on it.

BTW; the classpnp.sys error sounds familiar and are part of the unfinished recovery. So windows safe mode is the only way to go.

Location: Utrecht

Quite a challenge to achieve "Less is More" while having the Beovirus.

Btw. Don't flash your BIOS. You will lose the b&O startup screen.

Location: Utrecht

Quite a challenge to achieve "Less is More" while having the Beovirus.

Hi,

 

I downgraded to a 500 GB and used the 1TB for other purposes.

Here: link

 

The convertor I bought was a conrad version. model ST-106-2.

I can't find it on the conrad site. It's just a converterboard which you can mount on the back of the sata drive. 

This one also works (ordered it also to experiment)

link

 

Location: Utrecht

Quite a challenge to achieve "Less is More" while having the Beovirus.

It would seem that all SATA to IDE converters are not equal or transparent as far as Windows in concerned.  I ordered and fitted a ST-106-2 like you used and the disk immediately worked as expected and I am currently performing another full restore just to make sure there are no glitches.  One thing I have noticed is that is that the HDD temp figure is now blank in the menu.  Did you notice this?

Thanks again for your help..

Richard

Location: Netherlands

Glas to hear the BM1 starts working again.

I've had also another convertor which at first sight didn't work. Thought that the convertor got it's power from the sata/ide leads, but you have to power them with the help of  a special splitter which comes between the power ups and the sata disk.

 

I've noticed the tempeture thing, but I can'r remember the solution. Maybe the recovery solves it.

Did you check your system folder on the data partition?

Location: Utrecht

Quite a challenge to achieve "Less is More" while having the Beovirus.
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