Vienna wrote:

BeoLink "Passive" is the same as a ML/MCL Converter + "Eye"  (IR transceiver)  + 5m cable.

If connected to Powerlink (wo IR tranceiver) it works like as a MCL2P Power-Amp
If connected to MasterLink (wo IR tranceiver) it works like a ML/MCL Converter

Most versatile solution would be:

"BSys 2500" >> DataLink-Cable 7 pin  >> "BeoLink-Converter" >> ML-Cable >>
"BeoLink Passive + New Eye" >> Passive Speakers (conected to BeoLink Passive)

(old xtra kit/old IR not any longer required but you'll need a BeoLink Converter 1611 + ML + DL Cables)

Advantage: completely independant on/off as well as volume/sound settings for both rooms possible!

you're solution will work. I would do/propose the same.

Vienna wrote:

BeoLink "Passive" is the same as a ML/MCL Converter + "Eye"  (IR transceiver)  + 5m cable.

If connected to Powerlink (wo IR tranceiver) it works like as a MCL2P Power-Amp
If connected to MasterLink (wo IR tranceiver) it works like a ML/MCL Converter

Most versatile solution would be:

"BSys 2500" >> DataLink-Cable 7 pin  >> "BeoLink-Converter" >> ML-Cable >>
"BeoLink Passive + New Eye" >> Passive Speakers (conected to BeoLink Passive)

(old xtra kit/old IR not any longer required but you'll need a BeoLink Converter 1611 + ML + DL Cables)

Advantage: completely independant on/off as well as volume/sound settings for both rooms possible!

Alternative Version to my previous config - using existing MCL Cables
from 9300 installation and offering you independent volume control in both rooms:

"BSys 2500" >> DataLink-Cable 7 pin  >> "BeoLink-Converter" >> ML-Cable >>
"BeoLink Passive (without New Eye = ML/MCL Converter)"
>> existing MCL-Cables from old installation + existing X-tra Passive Kit + Speakers

trrue - this is the simpler method, but the first is the better solution

the new eye doesn´t work with the mcl! We have an old MCL-based system at home and last year when we re-designed the bathroom I tried to hook up the new eye instead of the old mcl-eye. No response!

This is right, the new IR-eye does not work with the old system. The reason is that in the old MCL eye the microprocessor was in the eye, in the ML eye there is no microprocessor. 

In your case you should connect the Passive to your BeoCenter 2500 using fully connected Powerlinkcable, since the MCL system needs data from your BeoCenter 2500, which is only transmitted through the fully connected powerlinkcable. After this you can connect the MCL-system to the Passive.

This is actually a solution fully supported by Bang & Olufsen. Remember that the ML system was not available yet when BeoCenter 2500 was introduced. And since BeoCenter 2500 did not have a power amplifier, the MCL system could not be connected. So they used the MCL2P for this. The ML/MCL converter and the BeoLink Passive are actually the same products, the difference is that there is no IR eye with the ML/MCL Converter. And both products can be used to replace an MCL2P!

Thanks Blackrix.

Now how about this, I put the passive in my loft above my bathroom (with the new EYE) then connect the passive to my BS2500 with "fully wired powerlink cables" then then just connect the passive speakers to the amp?

Will this work?😕

Cheers

Mark

No! If only.........!!

The eye will only work with ML cable connection of the passive to the Beocenter 2500 via a 1611 Beolink converter. Then the new eye will work.

a11mcr wrote:

Thanks Blackrix.

Now how about this, I put the passive in my loft above my bathroom (with the new EYE) then connect the passive to my BS2500 with "fully wired powerlink cables" then then just connect the passive speakers to the amp?

Will this work?😕

Cheers

Mark

Mark,

Blackrix described one possibilty, I described two alternatives
- each one has it's own advantages & limitations but all three will work.

Each one will only work within it's own context regarding components AND cables!

Make your choice, depending on your intention/possibility to change
cables and how comfortable the result shall be ... 

joeyboygolf wrote:

No! If only.........!!

The eye will only work with ML cable connection of the passive to the Beocenter 2500 via a 1611 Beolink converter. Then the new eye will work.

 

That's right! There are more ways to connect a link-system to a BeoCenter 2500. If you do it like I discribed before, there is a disadvantage. If you change the volume or the sound settings in the livingroom, the whole system will follow. It is actually the same if you change the volume or the sound settings in the linkroom. This of course only applies if there are speakers connected to the BeoCenter 2500. But the advantage is that it saves you money. You don't have to buy a T1611 converter. And you can keep using the MCL system, so it is the easiest solution in your situation. If you would build a new link-system, I would use ML, since it is more up to date!

😭😡   Right this is what i have done.

BS2500 >> fully wired powerlink cable >> beolink converter type 1611 >> masterlink cable to beolink passive with new eye >> one pair or passive speakers.

the amp turns on but nothing else happens? the BS2500 does not respond?

What have i done wrong??

Thanks

Mark