Beolab & Loewe BILD Integration

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I’m afraid because of the behaviour of our old dealer, my wife insists that B&O is now removed from our house. I’ve sold our Beolab 5s, and our 7-55 is now long gone unfortunately. I’ve bought a Loewe 5-65 and some matching speakers from Richer Sounds, a company I was guilty of discounting due to nothing other than snobbery. Thankfully they’ve been a completely proved me wrong.

There will still be some Beoplay products, but even they are falling to B&W and Naim. We’ve agreed to keep the 5-42, because it’s old skool David Lewis design and a symbol of what the company once was.

Unfortunately for B&O in the longer term, is that my 3 young boys who were guaranteed customers for the next 70-80 years, will now be lost due to the greed and mischief of a shop we had bought in for 12 years.

Best regards to you all

Chris

I get it Chris, I am completely with you. I have similar feelings to a local dealership in my neck fo the woods. But there you go, you buy the person or the experience, never the product. So many companies miss this; Lee being an exception. Simon.

How to program the Loewe remote to control "other" non-Loewe devices.

Loewe remote: 89900A23-4 / 89900D13-4 (remove battery cover to see number) are the latest models, comes with every Loewe TV in 2017/2018.
Every Device button (TV/STB/VIDEO/AUDIO) can be programmed for another brand.
The STB button is pre-programmed (according the manual) to control an Apple TV.

There is a list of codes in which a few "SKY" related boxes are mentioned with the 3-number code, this code can be programmed under the STB-button as follows:
Press STB button and OK button for 5 seconds (at the same time). 
The LED above STB flashes 2 times, then release both buttons.
Enter the 3-digit code. 
The LED above STB lights up for one second.
Press OK to end the program-mode. 
The LED above STB flashes 2 times to confirm succesfull programming

These are all SKY related codes, hopefully one works:
SKY 034, 050, 189, 227, 001
SKY MASTER 060, 133, 168, 170, 197, 215
SKY PLUS 002 SKYLAB 051
SKYMAX 033
SKYSAT 197
SKYVISION 059

It is also possible to put the Loewe Assist is a LEARN mode, if anyone requires info let me know.

https://www.loewe-friends.de/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=6864&p=140561&hilit=assist+anlernen#p140561

This is the URL to the LOEWE-FRIENDS site, it is all in german !!

Chris Townsend wrote:

I’m afraid because of the behaviour of our old dealer, my wife insists that B&O is now removed from our house. I’ve sold our Beolab 5s, and our 7-55 is now long gone unfortunately. I’ve bought a Loewe 5-65 and some matching speakers from Richer Sounds, a company I was guilty of discounting due to nothing other than snobbery. Thankfully they’ve been a completely proved me wrong.

There will still be some Beoplay products, but even they are falling to B&W and Naim. We’ve agreed to keep the 5-42, because it’s old skool David Lewis design and a symbol of what the company once was.

Unfortunately for B&O in the longer term, is that my 3 young boys who were guaranteed customers for the next 70-80 years, will now be lost due to the greed and mischief of a shop we had bought in for 12 years.

Best regards to you all

Chris

Beolit 15, Beoplay A2, H6/H2, Form 2, Beoplay A3, Beovision 5-42 connected to a DVD1

As a BeoPlay alternative, and all-in-one BeoSound alternative, the Naim Muso series seems (and sounds) like a good alternative. Materials are better than in the BeoPlay range, and the price of a Muso Cube is similar to BeoPlay A6. The Muso range also has received good reviews. Design is of course a matter of taste.

For my latest purchase, I contemplated quite a while between BeoPlay A6 and Naim Muso Cube. I chose the A6 for its design.

PCS wrote:
It is also possible to put the Loewe Assist is a LEARN mode, if anyone requires info let me know.

@PCS thanks much. This is very helpful.

If you know the codes to use to program the Oppo Blue Ray players or Sony UHD player, it will be super useful as I have connected the Sony UXB 800 and Oppo 105D to the Loewe BILD 7.

Sincerely

I found three codes for SONY 
SONY 067, 211, 227

None for OPPO but you can try the Cambridge code maybe:
CAMBRIDGE 006, 104, 199

 

I will send you, svinaik, the learn instructions by email

Folks, One more insight on the Loewe BILD UHD Connection. 

Loewe BILD has 4 HDMI connections but only 1 HDMI port (HDMI 4) will support the full HDR / Dolby Vision / UHD input. If you have more than one source equipment capable of UHD / HDR outputs (e.g. Apple TV 4H HDR + Sony UXB 800 or Oppo 203), you will have to find an external solution to get full advantage of the UHD resolution.

I have just ordered an external HDMI UHD switcher to connect my source equipment (Apple TV 4K and Sony UXB 800) to the switcher and then switcher will be connected with the Loewe HDMI 4.

I do not know if the Eclipse also has the same issue or not but if any one wants to know more about the HDMI UHD switcher that I have ordered, let me know and I will post more details.

I wish Loewe had provided at least 2 HDMI sockets with UHD capabilities but it is what it is... With the switcher, If I ever need, I can connect unto 4 sources with a single connection going to Loewe.

Hi svinaik,

According to Loewe they have on the current OLED sets 3 HDMI-connections with HDMI 2.0 (=UHD) and one with HDMI 2.0a.

HDMI 1: 4K-capable, HDR, ARC-Function
HDMI 2: 4K-capable, HDR
HMDI 3: 4K-capable, no HDR
HDMI 4: 4K-capable, HDR, Dolby Vision. (=HDMI 2.0a)

So, UHD on all 4 ports, but Dolby-vision only on HDMI4.

According to https://www.whathifi.com/sony/ubp-x800/review your Sony player does not support Dolby Vision, the Apple 4k TV does.

So I guess you can connect your Apple TV to HDMI 4 and your Sony to HDMI 1 or 2 without loosing any picture quality.

kiwi4all wrote:

Hi svinaik,

According to Loewe they have on the current OLED sets 3 HDMI-connections with HDMI 2.0 (=UHD) and one with HDMI 2.0a.

HDMI 1: 4K-capable, HDR, ARC-Function
HDMI 2: 4K-capable, HDR
HMDI 3: 4K-capable, no HDR
HDMI 4: 4K-capable, HDR, Dolby Vision. (=HDMI 2.0a)

So, UHD on all 4 ports, but Dolby-vision only on HDMI4.

According to https://www.whathifi.com/sony/ubp-x800/review your Sony player does not support Dolby Vision, the Apple 4k TV does.

So I guess you can connect your Apple TV to HDMI 4 and your Sony to HDMI 1 or 2 without loosing any picture quality.

@Kiwi4all

Thank you so much for your input. You are 100% correct that all the HDMI 1,2 and 4 are 2.0 and above can accept the HDR signal.

When I connected the Sony UBP-X800 to HDMI 2, I should have also removed the "HDMI Compatibility" in the Connections section in the setting menu. I think the "HDMI Compatibility" setting downgrades the HDMI port so that it can communicate with older generation devices. Once I removed that setting, I was able to get the HDR picture on the TV via Sony UBX 800.

Thank you again for providing the correct information and saving me the effort and cost of putting in HDMI Switcher.

Loewe BILD rocks....

 

 

svinaik wrote:
Loewe BILD rocks....

Hi Svinaik,

 

since this week I also have a Bild 5.55 in my living room.

Discovered same problem like you with the HDMI-connections, as my LG UHD player does support Dolby Vision.

My current work around is to manually connect either LG or Apple TV to HDMI. In the last three days I only played with the LG player.

And by using "Planet Earth 2 4K" discs...I also learned: you have to have the right HDMI-cable also. My old HDMI-cables are all only HDMI 1.4 certified.

Awaiting new cables.

The Loewe Bild up to now is nice, but not rocking yet ;-)

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