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@svinaik

Thanks! looks nice, but a bit wide. it's been over a year since i held a remote of a bild 7. i'd be more interested if they would use a little bit nicer materials and make it narrower.

one thing i did notice is that it seems like the p+/p- and v+/v- are on the opposite side as compared to the beo remote one. i think, instictively, loewe has got this right, i've had it for a month now and am still messing up between volume and channel all the time when not looking. it's rather irritating, specially when i just want to turn the volume up in sports, but end up switching channels at the wrong moment :p i also like the beo remote one much less than the beo4/5. the beo remote one is much prettier, but it's too lightweight and all of it needs to sit on a flat surface to not wiggle when pressing buttons. the beo 4/5 didn't have these issues.

btw, i looked thrue all your pictures again and next to your bild 7.77 the bl50's look kinda small lol all in all it looks ver good though!

Just a quick notice, will write a detailed feedback soon.

Yesterday the Loewe Bild 5.55 with center speaker and table foot inkl. the almando surround box arrived and my B&O/Loewe dealer installed everything within 40min.

Setup

Loewe Bild 5.55 OLED with center speaker on table foot and black alu assist remote

almando surround box

BeoSound 4 connected via powerlink to almando box

BeoLab 9 connected via powerlink to almando box

BeoLab 8000 connected via powerlink to almando box

If you switch on the BS4 all 4 speakers (BL9 + BL8000) receive the signal (after switching off, the speaker also switch off directly). Runs perfect.

The Loewe has a surround speaker modul like the e.g. BV10 (seat distance for each speaker incl. inbuild center, dB adjustment, sound adjustment). TV is off. If you ture the TV on and you have the dolby digital signal availabe all speaker run very proper.

Yesterday I watched Mission Impossible and was blown away from the OLED display and my speakers. The sound from the speakers was so much better than on the BeoVision 10-46 setup.

What do I miss, holding serval B&O TV`s for more than 15 years? Nothing. (O.k. the housing of the center speaker is not alu/stainless steel like a B&O).

There is no need to worry regarding integration of BeoLab and BeoSound into the Loewe setup with the almando box. Just plug and play.

Do youself a favor and take a closer look to the Loewe Bild OLED TV`s.

hotknife wrote:

What do I miss, holding serval B&O TV`s for more than 15 years? Nothing. (O.k. the housing of the center speaker is not alu/stainless steel like a B&O).

There is no need to worry regarding integration of BeoLab and BeoSound into the Loewe setup with the almando box. Just plug and play.

Do youself a favor and take a closer look to the Loewe Bild OLED TV`s.

 

Congratulations to you. I am so glad that you also went the same route as I did and feel great.about our decisions

Frankly,. if anyone were to put a little thought in their decisions like you and I have done, there is no match today with Loewe and Almando combination and we can still use what B&O does best, that is active speakers.

We not only ended with a much better TV (Loewe) and TV experience (Loewe OS) but also saved lots of money doing that.

I think many folks will read your and mine examples and will start walking this path except the hard core B&O fan boys who will not see the daylight even when sun is shinning.

Congratulations again and thank you for posting your experience.

KMA wrote:

Kudos to you who have journeyed outside the "walled garden" of B&O.

 

 

This is actually refreshing, in many ways. Even if B&O have lost the plot with Beovisions, there's a viable plug&play alternative with Loewe & Almando.

 

 

If anything, it should give B&O an incentive to re-think their position with TVs, which were once one of their core competences.

 

 

Currently, with those who know the Loewe/Almando route of sensible pricing and cross-brand integration, B&O loses and Loewe/Almando wins.

 

 

If I were Loewe, or Almando, I'd follow this thread with great interest – and perhaps see an opportunity they've not fully advertised yet.

Good points, and I have been quite interested in this thread, as it shows that viable options exist for integration with other brands. B&O has always had a reputation of not playing well with others, from their DIN connections to closed architectures, etc. In the past that wasn't too big a deal as a complete B&O system was pretty competent, now it seems to be a mish mash of incompatible systems, even within the brand, and overpriced and underperforming products, while still having some very high performance pieces (Beolabs). I am seriously looking at the Almando stuff for possible future use when I dig into and update my systems, I hadn't dug into what they offer and am impressed with what I see.

Definite Kudos to svinaik for not only daring to go beyond the walled garden but also for giving us all a map of the way!

Plus we can integrate a Sonus Connect via toslink (plug and play).

I was so close to buy a new B&O TV, but after I was told B&O will not product the converter for masterlink anymore, I was really pissed. Every quarter a new approach. You only pay for bling/bling and a stone heavy TV. Panel from Samsung/LG, android software and no connections to older B&O stuff/other brands.

I am/was a great fan of all B&O products and did not care for the massive overpriced products (I was so often given the finger for my B&O stuff) but now they have lost a loyal customer. It was not a matter of the price. I was willing to spend 6k or even 8k.

If Loewe + Almando will invest in some marketing and will show the new options, B&O will have a massive problem. And believe me, the new manager from Loewe (ex B&O management) knows the market.

Hello,

I am following this thread and also take part in the discussion. I have a LOEWE GALLERY shop in Amsterdam. If anybody wants a LOEWE TV + almando I can help you out from here.

Some have already taken the plunge of ordering the BILD 7 (Or Bild 5 or Bild 9) in my shop. And it all worked out perfectly. Installation is very simple.

If you like a quotation from me, send an email to info@koudijsonline.nl

Jeff wrote:

Definite Kudos to svinaik for not only daring to go beyond the walled garden but also for giving us all a map of the way!

It might be different for you guys in the USA.

But for B&O owners in Denmark the integretion of BeoLab speakers with a non-BV is nothing new - it has been know and practiced for years here.

And the Almando solutions are well known here too.

(Just look at a thread like this: link

It can be a good solution for some users.

But people tend to forget that there are 3 parts of a BV setup.

Once there is of course the tv, then there are the speakers and lastly the way these integrate = the built-in sound processor/preamp/audio solution of the BV.

Yes, you can keep the nice BL’s, exchange the tv part with a Loewe (or something else), but you loose, what is essential to a BV/sound setup/solution.

You may argue, that the Loewe (or for that matter the Almando Multiplay Surround decoder) ‘does the job’.

But essentionally they are nothing more than a common multichannel receiver/preamp in a neat package (or even built in to the Loewe).

They know nothing about the possibilities of the different BL’s (including how to bas manage to the different BL subwoofers) and all the other sophisticated stuff, that is possible with the audio solution of a BSys4-based tv - just read the documentations of Geoff Martin for that.

If you don’t need that, there is nothing that should prevent you from using a 3rd party solution for connecting the BL’s to a Loewe tv.

Personally I need it - which is the reason why I stick to a modern BV as the hub of my setup.

MM 

KMA wrote:

Kudos to you who have journeyed outside the "walled garden" of B&O.

This is actually refreshing, in many ways. Even if B&O have lost the plot with Beovisions, there's a viable plug&play alternative with Loewe & Almando.

If anything, it should give B&O an incentive to re-think their position with TVs, which were once one of their core competences.

Currently, with those who know the Loewe/Almando route of sensible pricing and cross-brand integration, B&O loses and Loewe/Almando wins.

If I were Loewe, or Almando, I'd follow this thread with great interest – and perhaps see an opportunity they've not fully advertised yet.

Actually you were the last one, that I had expected this to come from.

Your thread on the BV11