Beolab & Loewe BILD Integration

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svinaik wrote:

crossbytje wrote:

In this case, you have to rely on the line in detection of the beolabs to switch on and off, and during 'silent' scenes, this could sometimes lead to unnecessary switching on/off while watching movies, or tv shows with a lot of speech.

I have a set of BeoLab 4s connected to my compyter, and sometimes they don't switch on unless I turn the volume up (and down again, because I don't want them to be that loud). 

Anyway, I suppose the almando box takes care of the trigger signal to the beolabs. But if that is the only extra, it is a very expensive one...

Thanks for sharing your points. I must admit that I never explore any others ways of integrating B&O sound with Loewe other than just going the Almando Multi surround way but all I can say is that solution works a like a charm with just 2 Ethernet Cat 7 cables, In any case, since I was saving so much by going the Loewe route versus Eclipse, I had no trouble spending some money on Almando. Almando controls the speaker with in line voltage trigger for BL 50 and BL 50 works just like they worked with my BV9 or any other B&O TV. In future, If I decide to hook up my BL5 also as surround speakers, Almando will take care of that in a heartbeat.

So seems like there are many ways to go at different budget points.

Let the great thoughts keep flowing as this may help many more people in making a sound decision.

My point was, that the Almando box would do the surround processing - which means decide which channel to send to which speaker.

The Loewe has (as already more users stated) an onboard surround processor and can - of course - use the in-built speaker as a center channel.

The Almando box however, has no access to the tv speaker, I would suppose - and therefore now your setup is a pure stereo/2 channel setup....

....at least untill you decide to use the BL5’s as surround speakers.

Am I right in asuming, that you have no sound from the tv speaker, ‘just’ (if I may say so) from the BL50’s.

If you have - it would be nice to know how one should set up/configure the tv. Also from the point of view of having a right balance between all three channels and perhaps also to bas manage the sound from the relatively weak tv speakers to the BL50’s, when playing from a multichannel source.

MM

Location: Flensborg————Danmark

MM

You are correct in that Almando can only send the sound to whatever speakers are connected with it.

In my setup, decision to use 2 or 3 or 5 or “Optimal” speakers is done through the Loewe sound set up and Loewe is distributing the sound either based upon my selection or based upon “TV’s decision “ if optimal is chosen. On the Almando, I have only connected the BL 50. Sound balancing amongst the speakers is done at Loewe level where the surround speaker range ( Hz- Mhz) and the speaker distance etc is setup as part of the initial setup. In that setup, we can also define sound level settings for TV speakers and Surround speakers. 

So effectively, I am using the Loewe surround processing and Almando plays a secondary role of managing the incoming sound to the connected speakers. If I used another external speaker as Center Channel, than Almando will balance the sound across connected speakers instead of Loewe.

So we have both options, use Loewe surround or Almando. Hope that explains ,

I have also invited Almando CEO, Juergen to contribute to this discussion thread and if he joins, it will be great for all of us as he is a deep source of knowledge on B&O and Loewe sound management. 

hotknife wrote:

Hi guys. Just sold my BV10-46 and ordered the Loewe Bild 5.55 OLED with almando-surround box. Front speakers BL9, rear speakers Bl8000 MarkII & BeoSound4. Plus ordered the new Apple TV 4k 64GB. Alle things should arrive next week. Keep you up to date.

Congratulations. You will be super pleased.

Since you ordered BILD 5 , did you get the speaker bar also as i think it is an option on BILD 5?,

Please remember that Almando box comes with one Ethernet cable ( to connect Loewe DAL to Almando) and you will need cables for B&O speakers. Keep us posted, 

 

Svinaik, I order the Bild 5 incl. the 80 watt Loewe-speaker. I did not order the Bild 7 with the retractable 120 watt speaker because the 1k extra charge between Bild 5 and Bild 7 55" OLED was it not worth for me. Plus I did not like the stand of the Bild 7.

Yes, I ordered some powerlink/RJ45 to connect all 4 speakers to the almando box. I was told the BS4 could be connected also via powerlink/powerlink cable to the almando box.

And I`d also like to put a non B&O subwoofer to the setting (Velodyne Mico- or MiniVee/ or a B&W PV1).

 

1,  The non B&O subwoorfer does not have any powerlink cable. What kind of adapter cable shall I use?

2, Does a non B&O subwoofer work with the almando-box and Loewe Bild 5?

I do not want to place a BL2/19.

Hi Guys,

I currently have a 3.1 setup with the Loewe acting as the centre and the beloab 18s acting as the front L&R and a Beolab 19 as my subwoofer.

 

 I want to add a set of 17's or 18s to setup so the speakers will connect to my transmitter 1 wirelessly  and then be placed in another lounge where we sit and eat to get multi-room.

The idea is that when the TV is on and playing media I will have a  5.1 system ( with rear sound in the second lounge). But when I want multi-room the speakers will play music across both rooms or just the one room.

 

I was thinking of adding a beosound core to do this - would this work 😁?

 

I have another transmitter 1 and Klipch HD transmitter but don't want to separate the speakers. Unless I can somehow connect both transmitters together?

 

@svinaik

Could you post a picture of the loewe remote? Maybe next to something for size refference?

Thanks

And how are you enjoying it all so far?

Mikipedia wrote:
@svinaik

 

Could you post a picture of the loewe remote? Maybe next to something for size refference?

 

Thanks

 

And how are you enjoying it all so far?

@Mikipedia

Will do on Wednesday. Currently traveling out of country, As for enjoying the Loewe7 , it has surpassed my expectations and grateful that there was something that I could want (after what I considered a disaster by B&O).

Loewe remote is dimensionally very close to B&O remote. I will take a picture side by side. I think it is tasteful (has no Ugly NETFLIX etc.).

 

Epsilon20 wrote:

I want to add a set of 17's or 18s to setup so the speakers will connect to my transmitter 1 wirelessly and then be placed in another lounge where we sit and eat to get multi-room.

I don‘t think this will work.

Transmitter and receiver is for a single room installation.

Not to send audio to another room.

Ralf

My B&O Icons:

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Beovision-11.png Beovision-11.png
Beosound.png Beosound.png
Beoplay-V1.png Beoplay-V1.png
Beoplay-H95.png Beoplay-H95.png
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Living Room: Beosystem 4, Beolab 7-2 (Center), Beolab 9 (Fronts), Beolab 8000 (Rears), Screen: Sony KD-85XH9096
Home Cinema: Beosystem 4, Beolab 7-4 (Center), Beolab 9 (Fronts), Beolab 4000 (Rears). Projector: Sony VPL-HW55
Home Office: BeoVision 11-46, 4 x Beolab 3, BeoCenter 9300 (BLC 1611/ML/NL)
Bedroom: Sony KD-65XH9077, Beosound Essence MK II with Beolab 6002 and Beolab 11 (all white, wall-mounted)
Dart Room: BeoPlay V1-40 on floor stand
Guest Room: BeoVision 7-40 MK IV, Beolab 7-2, BeoSound Ouverture

Mikipedia wrote:
Could you post a picture of the loewe remote? Maybe next to something for size refference?

@Mikipedia

I have loaded the picture of Loewe BILD 7 remote right next to B&O remote so that you can see them side by side. Pretty much similar form factor.

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