Strange. Why do you think that ".... no one has noticed, that these speakers have no midrange, at all!..." ?

If there was no midrange at all I`m sure a lot of people here would have noticed....🙂 

BL9 has a 3/4 tweeter for threble, a 5" cone  for midrange and a 10" cone for bass. I have no BL9, but I listened to them in different Beo stores and had the luck to listen to BL9 in B&O listening room in Struer, and I remember that I was surprised how clear and natural - with just the right amount of really deep bass - these little speakers sound. on the other hand  sometimes in the stores I heard to much bass AND threble from BL9s, but after I reset equalization, everything was fine. 

So maybe there is something with your BL9s?You mentioned BL1: In my opinion one of the worst BLs Beo created. Large speaker with lack of bass and aggressive, "metallic" sounding mids, that`s what I remember - I didn`t own them either.

Stefan

We have both Beolab 1s and Beolab 9s. The 9s replaced the 1s which our now rear speakers. I did side by side listening to the 1s and 9s before deciding to keep them and the 9s were much much better. I will say however that I am not sure my ear is good enough to pick out certain frequency as you are mentioning. I can just say that overall the 9s are far better than the 1s.

Saying there is no midrange at all is exaggerating, so i apologise, i'm felling heated is all. These speakers at current, are seriously missing some frequencies.

The treble is very pretty and concise, but it is artificial, it is overly pronounced and is in need of some mid range to back it up, i have owned both BL1 and BL9 now, and i can say the overall the BL9's are a better speaker, but i am a little frustrated by the top end... maybe i'm going too far saying that only B&O could put a tweeter on a beautiful speaker that sparkles, skimp on a 4th element (that being the upper midrange such as the one on the BL5 or BL1 in this case) and slap on a hefty price tag... what am i doing wrong here?

Hi all!

This post is interesting and wants some discussion and maybe measurement.  I'm traveling right now and can't devote any time to this until Tuesday at the earliest.  

I will say, though, that when this speaker was being developed, we were very much concerned with midrange.  Further, with my pair, I don't feel it's missing.  I'll be interested to grab a measurment when I get a chance.  Then we can consider the various things that might be hppening.  

Thanks for raising the question.  

Best regards,

Hi Dave,

I wonder, what sound source are you using? I hear nothing but good on BL9, but tastes can differ of course. A low quality input signal might not be disturbing on a tinny/cool (ICE amplified) sounding BL1 but may be on a (2/3 conventional amplified) BL9.

Interesting thread!

🙂

I'll stay tuned for your further posts Mr Moulton, thank you!

I am using them with BeoCenter 2, and with very good cd's, along with bad ones for measure. The room is very dry (roughened ceiling, carpet, brick wall, soft couches and curtains etc.) I think it may also be most prominent because i spent 4 days experiecing wonderful sound at WOMADelaide world music festival, and installed them immediately after that.

^Another variable to consider is that i am still a little upset to have had my BeoLab 1's stolen, i went to great lengths to get them, and some parasite comes along and helps themselves to what i worked very hard for. The insurance company would not give me a cheque to buy another second hand pair.

I do not believe that speakers need *running in* i believe it is your brain getting used to them.

Anyway, if there are any other BL9 owners with this thought on the midrange and top end, chip in.

Dave wrote:

Saying there is no midrange at all is exaggerating, so i apologise, i'm felling heated is all. These speakers at current, are seriously missing some frequencies.

The treble is very pretty and concise, but it is artificial, it is overly pronounced and is in need of some mid range to back it up, i have owned both BL1 and BL9 now, and i can say the overall the BL9's are a better speaker, but i am a little frustrated by the top end... maybe i'm going too far saying that only B&O could put a tweeter on a beautiful speaker that sparkles, skimp on a 4th element (that being the upper midrange such as the one on the BL5 or BL1 in this case) and slap on a hefty price tag... what am i doing wrong here?

I have BL9's for 6 months now. They are connected to a BS3000 and I completely agree with Dave's opinion that the higher midrange is overly pronounced and sound harsh and yes maybe artificial. I have also experimented with the treble settings (-3 now) and the position of the speakers in the room but there were no significant improvements. We mainly listen to (all sorts) of classical music. I am also  little frustated by the top end frequency range!

Maybe a stupid question, but:

Don't you people listen to a speaker BEFORE you buy it?

When I'm gonna buy a speaker, I kindly ask the dealer to turn OFF any EQ, Loudness, Bass- and Treble adjustments and then I'm gonna listen to them with my own music. When I like what I hear, I'll buy it :-)

Did you have the opportunity to compare your Beolab 9 with another pair of Beolab 9? Perhaps there's a defect or your ears simply dislike them!?

Actually I agree with this opinion too. The present day taste is for detail and this comes across in many speakers, not just B&O, as a degree of stridency. An audiophile will notice the detail, I find it rather tiring. Older B&O speakers are softer and probably a bit veiled for some people, but they are very soothing to listen to. I also agree with the point that one gets used to speakers. And listening in a showroom is not the same as at home. 

It is however all a matter of taste. I am sure the frequency response of the BL9 will be pretty flat.