Beolab 5 placment setup?

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Hello 

I was wondring if there were any suggetions about placment for beolab 5.

toe in, tips for calibirations, and so on......

 

pierre

MrDMoulton wrote:

From my standpoint, as one of the inventors of ALT, it's really pretty easy. If you can, keep your speakers more than a meter away from walls. If you can't, it's not a big problem, but playback won't necessarily have quite the illusion of depth you might like.

When we first created ALT at Sausalito Audio, we designed it so that optimum frequency response was at 30° off-axis, so you would have had no toe-in. Bang & Olufsen, however, decided to optimize response on-axis, so you should toe the BeoLab 5s in so that the lens is directly facing toward you, the listener. Because the response is so consistent horizontally, whatever errors you have will be essentially inaudible.

The calibration is utterly straightforward – you just push the button on top and let the speaker do its thing. By calibrating you are simply correcting the speaker for the power response encountered at the speaker's position in your room. This often is misunderstood by some BeoWorlders, who seem to think the calibration is a way of "voicing" the speaker to sound "best." Sometimes, they even "game" the calibration to change tonal character by calibrating in some other space (outdoors, for instance).

If you wish to "voice" the speaker to fit your preferences (which I think is a perfectly natural and very musical thing to want to try), I recommend you buy a good parametric equalizer (five bands would be good), put it in line between the preamp or receiver you are using and the BL 5s, and start experimenting and studying the rich, fascinating and musical world of timbre adjustment. I recommend that you don't try to use calibration to do these things.

Finally, if you want to get really picky, buy yourself a Sound Pressure Level meter and verify that your sound levels are exactly matched at your listening position. This includes getting levels at each speaker "stored" in the Beo4 and trimmed somewhere earlier in the signal flow to be identical (with .5 dB, at least).

Good luck with all of this. Most important, enjoy your BeoLab 5s. They are so worth it!

Best regards,

Dave Moulton, Sausalito Audio

I had no idea about the toe-in. I'll try that...

I did try a couple of room correction systems: audyssey pro and Dirac live (digital only). Making the story short right not i'm running the system with no equalization at all, not even the integrated one.

I got great results by "just" moving the speakers away from the walls as far as I can.

You'll find pages and pages here.

Thanks for this. All the calibrations Info wasnt new to me, but the toe in was. I will try that later this evening.

Has anyone tryed to connect the speakers to a powercondtioner? 

 

Pierre

Yes, mine are connected to a Belkin PureAv pf50. I cant tell if it make any differences  but at least I got rid of some electrical spikes with my previous system. So it should be good for the electronics inside I think.

Maab why didnt you like Dirac? I use it myself and thinks it is a big advantage with much more clean bass and better tonality. You could perhaps have a much better room then I do. 

I think it has to do with my room. I would get a great bass at listening position, but elsewhere I would notice some annoying booming. Ironically, it's more pleasant without its involvement. Did you notice that Dirac sucks more power from the amps to produce a given level?

I'm about to redesign the apt and I'll try again in a couple of months after the work is done. I'm convinced that my room-furniture is the culprit thou.

M

Hi Maab,

Yes the program is designed to reduce the volume level by 7 dB. Because it is "forbidden" to boost levels when you manipulate the signal. To get maximum sound quality you can only decrease levels where you need to.

So it is not only Dirac that does that, all room correction softwares reduces the input signal. But for me it gives so many advantages that this "problem" is over looked. 

Hi Maab,

Yes the program is designed to reduce the volume level by 7 dB. Because it is "forbidden" to boost levels when you manipulate the signal. To get maximum sound quality you can only decrease levels where you need to.

So it is not only Dirac that does that, all room correction softwares reduces the input signal. But for me it gives so many advantages that this "problem" is over looked. 

Wilderwein wrote:

Hi Maab,

Yes the program is designed to reduce the volume level by 7 dB. Because it is "forbidden" to boost levels when you manipulate the signal. To get maximum sound quality you can only decrease levels where you need to.

So it is not only Dirac that does that, all room correction softwares reduces the input signal. But for me it gives so many advantages that this "problem" is over looked.

Of course... I should have known it. But I will retry Dirac soon as I get my apt back... My point was that the bl5, in my room, do sound amazing even without any correction.
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