B&O doesnt recommend MasterLink anymore, the recommend CAD 7 cables for your house ???

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Large48 wrote:

Are they then going to make recommendations about which Ethernet switch these all connect to centrally? 10-Gig / Gig / Fast / Eth? all full wire switching speed? etc, etc

At the moment, you're using the cable in place of ML/PL, so while they're using Ethernet-standard cables, it's not using Ethernet.  You'll run them all to a patch panel and patch them together - no switching.

What happens in locations that still use / need RF signals? is that another RF to Ethernet adaptor?

RF balun's exist, might not work over the same length as normal 75 Ohm Coax.

Even though it is German, check the pictures posted.

/forum/deutsche/masterlink--gt-lanethernet--gt-masterlink-gibt-es-soetwas#post-1703009

It worked for me (BS3000, BV3-32, BL3500).

Ralf

 

PS:Cat 5e Patchpanels (but Cat7 cables). Cat5e is enough for this passive setup (using just the cabling - no acitve devices like switches etc.).

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I think the point is that CAT5/6 might work over small distances for ML/PL, but over greater distances and for future HD video usage, CAT5/6 will likely prove inadequate. 

If you had the opportunity to rewire your house, you'd be daft not to use CAT7 if you had any intention of sticking with B&O.

so will cat 7 run replace digital cables for BL5 e.g? sorry for nooby and not really understanding the difference....

Here's a example of how currently you will connect legacy products i.e. analogue masterlink.

In the hopefully near future they will convert to a IP masterlink i.e. digital which will allow for multisource x multizone all over IP.

 

 

csmager wrote:

I think the point is that CAT5/6 might work over small distances for ML/PL, but over greater distances and for future HD video usage, CAT5/6 will likely prove inadequate. 

If you had the opportunity to rewire your house, you'd be daft not to use CAT7 if you had any intention of sticking with B&O.

I'd like to caution against this type of thinking. Csmanger is correct to warn against any other structured cabling installation other than Cat7. 

 

If you think in terms of "what can I get away with" as far as short distances and basic ML Bus activities you're going to put yourself in a position where the full distribution and matrixing of 1080p+ video will not work and you'll end up reinstalling some or all of your infrastructure. Besides, why would you buy a spool of Cat6 and a spool of Cat7 in the first place? 

The whole point is "one cable does it all" which makes it easier, cheaper, and tidier. 

Sure, if you have the chance to start from the beginning, use CAT7 cabling, it should be about the same prize as CAT5/CAT6. So did we five years ago.

Ralf

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I know someone who buys Cat5e HD Switchers from link for many years, and he has installed their HD Maxtrix switches in lots of homes, up to 50mt guaranteed for Cat5e, up to 65mt with Cat6, and obviously for longer runs Cat7, but the cost difference between Cat5, 6 and 7 is so tiny now, that for new installations it only makes sense to use Cat7

article by experts who have hundreds of dealers around the world using their "Matrix Switches"

 

 

 

ouverture wrote:
link article by experts who have hundreds of dealers around the world using their "Matrix Switches"

Thanks for the article

The 4x4 seems affordable with attractive features (IR passthrough)

I was amused by the conclusion

The Full HD distribution market will always be strong in the high-end residential custom installation environment. Clients now demand the very best the market has to offer for their 103" 1080p deep colour displays ......

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