TripEnglish wrote:

Puncher wrote:

Same old Trip - as helpful, contstructive and informative as always! I could argue but why bother, you are of course correct - the Samsung is cr4p with little technological worth........it is also likely to be the heart of next years BV7, after Samsung haved moved onto something else.

I'm not sure you could argue. I haven't seen it happen successfully yet. Of course Samsung will be the panels we use. Then we'll add a surround sound processor. Then we'll add video processing. Then we'll add integrated projector support. Then we'll add a PUC to control attached peripherals. Then we'll add a blu-ray player. Then we'll add a 750watt sound system. Then we'll add special anti-glare front glass. Then we'll add hand-machined aluminum. Then we'll add a silent motorized stand or bracket. Then we'll add a masterlink socket. Then we'll add an audio system that plugs into it with a single cable for a completely integrated AV system. Then we'll add a network of sound & video products to link up from elsewhere in the home. Then we'll offer an automation interface to integrate lighting, shades, and temperature. Then we'll add an iPhone app to run it. Then we'll add a 3-year warranty. Then we'll inspire a forum where people can complain about it. 

EXACTLY!!!

And also in multiple different color combinations to match any decor.

OH but no wait it doesn't have dozens of HDMI imputs (hello!!! hdmi expander) and "apps" built in so is no good enough then... Yeah sure.

At the end of the day, though, who cares? Threads like these crop up from time to time and I don't think a single mind has ever been changed. If a B&O fan could ever be satisfied with a Samsung panel, they're a fan for different reasons than me.  

BeoFab wrote:

TripEnglish wrote:

Puncher wrote:

Same old Trip - as helpful, contstructive and informative as always! I could argue but why bother, you are of course correct - the Samsung is cr4p with little technological worth........it is also likely to be the heart of next years BV7, after Samsung haved moved onto something else.

I'm not sure you could argue. I haven't seen it happen successfully yet. Of course Samsung will be the panels we use. Then we'll add a surround sound processor. Then we'll add video processing. Then we'll add integrated projector support. Then we'll add a PUC to control attached peripherals. Then we'll add a blu-ray player. Then we'll add a 750watt sound system. Then we'll add special anti-glare front glass. Then we'll add hand-machined aluminum. Then we'll add a silent motorized stand or bracket. Then we'll add a masterlink socket. Then we'll add an audio system that plugs into it with a single cable for a completely integrated AV system. Then we'll add a network of sound & video products to link up from elsewhere in the home. Then we'll offer an automation interface to integrate lighting, shades, and temperature. Then we'll add an iPhone app to run it. Then we'll add a 3-year warranty. Then we'll inspire a forum where people can complain about it. 

EXACTLY!!!

And also in multiple different color combinations to match any decor.

OH but no wait it doesn't have dozens of HDMI imputs (hello!!! hdmi expander) and "apps" built in so is no good enough then... Yeah sure.

I too must say EXACTLY!!!

And don't forget the addition of a remote that actually works anywhere in the room and doe not have to be pointed exactly in the right direction.

TripEnglish wrote:

Puncher wrote:

Same old Trip - as helpful, contstructive and informative as always! I could argue but why bother, you are of course correct - the Samsung is cr4p with little technological worth........it is also likely to be the heart of next years BV7, after Samsung haved moved onto something else.

I'm not sure you could argue. I haven't seen it happen successfully yet. Of course Samsung will be the panels we use. Then we'll add a surround sound processor. Then we'll add video processing. Then we'll add integrated projector support. Then we'll add a PUC to control attached peripherals. Then we'll add a blu-ray player. Then we'll add a 750watt sound system. Then we'll add special anti-glare front glass. Then we'll add hand-machined aluminum. Then we'll add a silent motorized stand or bracket. Then we'll add a masterlink socket. Then we'll add an audio system that plugs into it with a single cable for a completely integrated AV system. Then we'll add a network of sound & video products to link up from elsewhere in the home. Then we'll offer an automation interface to integrate lighting, shades, and temperature. Then we'll add an iPhone app to run it. Then we'll add a 3-year warranty. Then we'll inspire a forum where people can complain about it. 

100% spot on!!!

Agreed!

TripEnglish wrote:

At the end of the day, though, who cares? Threads like these crop up from time to time and I don't think a single mind has ever been changed. If a B&O fan could ever be satisfied with a Samsung panel, they're a fan for different reasons than me.  

HI trip i just hope the CEO do not think the same if he did we are doomed!!,i do respect trying to fight your corner same here in the view to bring B&O back to it's usual luster what you said is true but the sales has not has it ??now you know why😎

Ed7, I give everyone the benefit of the doubt that they're arguing from their heart or their gut, but on a discussion forum you're going to be challenged on your facts if you misrepresent them. I understand that you could see all the benefits of a current B&O product and still decide it's not for you, but that's a personal opinion and not a factual statement on the general condition of the brand. 

Fortunately sales are picking up. They will likely continue to do so based as much on the economy's perceived stability as our innovations and product launches.

Looking from this side of the pond where B&O itself and most of its customers are, the economy is far from stable. It looked good for a while starting last summer, but it seems that there are still some fuses burning...

It's this new sociocapitalistic world order, where banks take care of the profits and taxpayers take care of the losses. Well, perhaps more of the B&O clientele belongs to the former group.

TripEnglish wrote:

Fortunately sales are picking up. 

I know it's Pantomime season, but i have to say 'oh no they're not' ...

UK Sales are dismal for all but a few dealers.  Europe is pretty much the same - so i assume Dollars are flowing freely and things are on the up in the States.  Good news - at least someone has the sun coming over the horizon!

Lee

🙂

I was not trying to misrepresent the brand merely stating  the final products,( not as good as the good B&O) we knew,i owned an avant more than happy with it despite the fact was Phillips tube in it or other make,the product was stunning all round also back to the HDMI argument which some dismisses as not big deal,what was the avant good selling point amounts others it had 3 scart sockets too,