The way they're going , I don't give B&O long . Their prices are one problem but their product limitations don't help either.

One of my friends was thinking of buying a pair of beolab 3's for his samsung tv but they only connect in stereo and require a b & o tv to work in surround , a massive outlay , but after doing a bit of research he was able to buy an entire denon / b & w av system for the cost of just these speakers alone. 

They simply have fallen so far behind their competition technically it's a joke. Look at the 7 , only 2 hdmi's free on a £7k tv ? What if I want to connect an apple tv , a mac mini and a sky box - I have to buy an hdmi extender ?

Ridiculous. They really have got to get their act together , and quick.

This saying comes to mind😡

It is a shame really i enjoyed their products at one time and paid the FULL asking price too also i was very protective & proud of the brand too ,not now😎

Are you saying that those of us who enjoy, appreciate and buy current B and O products are fools?

I think what B&O has done is pull away from the lower middle earning classes in their sense of product pricing as well as the bespoke instillations that dealers would preffer to go for, just for the guaranteed income from.

The tough times haven't helped the middle ground where they've stood still income wise, and the cost of the B&O products have risen more in comparison leaving more out of reach. Consiquently I'm spending my money on 2nd hand versions and not new B&O items.

For the chattering rich who spend their time flicking through magazines and having lunch, am sure they're earning more than ever before and have no problems with the ever increasing exclusivity B&O prices are commanding.

Such is the way of the world 😛

You're exactly right. The middle class is taking a breather until the economy reestablishes some feeling of safety and predictability. Once that happens I wouldn't be surprised to see more affordable offerings. In the mean time we're not going to build something for which there is no sound business case. That truly would lead to our demise. The only point I would argue is that the rich are somehow idle and silly. While there are certainly trust-fund babies here and there, the majority of wealth is earned by very serious people. In over 10 years I've only met a handful of people who meet your description. The rest have earned their money and are enjoying the fruits of their labor.

Razlaw wrote:

Are you saying that those of us who enjoy, appreciate and buy current B and O products are fools?

NO,NO,NO

benjnz wrote:

 

The tough times haven't helped the middle ground where they've stood still income wise, and the cost of the B&O products have risen more in comparison leaving more out of reach. 

 

In 2000 we purchased a a 32 inch Avant at a price of $8,500. This month, 10 years later we purchased a 40 in Beovision 10-40 with a motorized stand for less than $8,000. Try to buy a 2010 car for less than a comparable 2000 model, I do not think it is possible. 2010 Audis and Cadillacs are far more expensive than the Audis and Cadillacs we had in 2000.

I recognized the 10-40 may lack some features of an Avant but it also has many features not present in the Avant.

The difference the avant if you like was the rolls Royce of the tellys you can not say the same  about newer tvs,also the difference between brands then was x3 now more than x5 also not up to date !!,i have seen an advert for 50 inch samsung 3d less than £1000 today!!,i have no wish or desire to acquire 3d tv but just an example!!

ed7 wrote:

The difference the avant if you like was the rolls Royce of the tellys you can not say the same  about newer tvs,also the difference between brands then was x3 now more than x5 also not up to date !!,i have seen an advert for 50 inch samsung 3d less than £1000 today!!,i have no wish or desire to acquire 3d tv but just an example!!

You forgot to add "It's my personal opinion that..."

The TVs perform at higher levels and with more features than did the Avant. If you don't like them, that's a matter of opinion.