Check the number of danish homes that had a BeoVision in their living room in 1990.

And check this number again nowadays.

You'll know where B&O is going..😉

TripEnglish wrote:

This thread has really got me thinking. Maybe B&O is not so good! Maybe I've been lying to myself all these years. Maybe the other high-end brands that use their amplifiers like Meridian and B&W are also stupid! Maybe the brands that copy their design are dumb as well! Maybe the hundreds of thousands of customers who've bought B&O over the years are fools! Maybe people get rich from being uncommonly stupid and not uncommonly smart! Maybe being able to update my facebook status on my TV makes it cutting edge! Maybe it doesn't matter how accurate colors are or how smoothly motion is rendered! Maybe $6 worth of speaker hardware is enough! Maybe using one remote for everything is ridiculous! Maybe I shouldn't even bother with a projector! Maybe I shouldn't aspire to anything beyond what I can currently afford!

I've really got a lot to think about.

LOL damn right!!!!

I'd agree but having 2 spare hdmi's on a tv is just plain stupid.

All tv's these days have at least 4 available , the rest of the specs don't really matter too much. Connecting stuff up easily does though. Especially now with the dawn of the internet integration age. ; apple tv , mac mini etc etc

This is where B&O fall down.

TripEnglish wrote:

This thread has really got me thinking. Maybe B&O is not so good! Maybe I've been lying to myself all these years. Maybe the other high-end brands that use their amplifiers like Meridian and B&W are also stupid! Maybe the brands that copy their design are dumb as well! Maybe the hundreds of thousands of customers who've bought B&O over the years are fools! Maybe people get rich from being uncommonly stupid and not uncommonly smart! Maybe being able to update my facebook status on my TV makes it cutting edge! Maybe it doesn't matter how accurate colors are or how smoothly motion is rendered! Maybe $6 worth of speaker hardware is enough! Maybe using one remote for everything is ridiculous! Maybe I shouldn't even bother with a projector! Maybe I shouldn't aspire to anything beyond what I can currently afford!

I've really got a lot to think about.

Same old Trip - as helpful, contstructive and informative as always! I could argue but why bother, you are of course correct - the Samsung is cr4p with little technological worth........it is also likely to be the heart of next years BV7, after Samsung haved moved onto something else.

Puncher wrote:

TripEnglish wrote:

This thread has really got me thinking. Maybe B&O is not so good! Maybe I've been lying to myself all these years. Maybe the other high-end brands that use their amplifiers like Meridian and B&W are also stupid! Maybe the brands that copy their design are dumb as well! Maybe the hundreds of thousands of customers who've bought B&O over the years are fools! Maybe people get rich from being uncommonly stupid and not uncommonly smart! Maybe being able to update my facebook status on my TV makes it cutting edge! Maybe it doesn't matter how accurate colors are or how smoothly motion is rendered! Maybe $6 worth of speaker hardware is enough! Maybe using one remote for everything is ridiculous! Maybe I shouldn't even bother with a projector! Maybe I shouldn't aspire to anything beyond what I can currently afford!

I've really got a lot to think about.

 

Same old Trip - as helpful, contstructive and informative as always! I could argue but why bother, you are of course correct - the Samsung is cr4p with little technological worth........it is also likely to be the heart of next years BV7, after Samsung haved moved onto something else.

Well said puncher😁, now a boxer too !!😉😁😁

I bought B&O shares after their value had crashed, they'd had a rights issue, and dividends were suspended. The original shareholders who were used to 25% dividends year on year must have been devastated: no dividends and the share price down 90%! As for my investment: it's down a further 24%.🙁

(I've always had a few shares in makers of products I like: thankfully the Apple share price moved up faster than B&O moved down!)🙂

Graham

EDIT

Do you lose more by buying B&O shares or by buying B&O products 🤔

vikinger wrote:

I bought B&O shares after their value had crashed, they'd had a rights issue, and dividends were suspended. The original shareholders who were used to 25% dividends year on year must have been devastated: no dividends and the share price down 90%! As for my investment: it's down a further 24%.🙁

(I've always had a few shares in makers of products I like: thankfully the Apple share price moved up faster than B&O moved down!)🙂

 

Graham

B&O have many brilliant designs and inventions one  of which i am really fond off is ice power,i hope for their fans sake come -up with more brilliance and not bury their head in the sand,especially in these tough time(so called austerity) .

My B&O shares are still doing quite nicely as a whole (I bought the first batch too early, though).

The way the world is going, it won't take long though. After Greece and Ireland, I'm now just eagerly awaiting for Portugal, Spain and Italy to collapse as well, so I can send the rest of my money over there.

Their TVs will no doubt have an appeal to existing  owners of B & O equipment.

The question is,do they appeal to people who don't own B & O equipment,and are in the market for a premium TV.

Subsequent to the demise of Fujitsu,and Pioneer,TVs,the only alternative to B & O,for premium LCD TVs,is Loewe.

Whether B & O,or Loewe,a fundamental point to consider is that LCD is still not a mature technology,and,despite their best efforts,manufacturers have not eliminated the problems with motion handling,and to a lesser extent,uneven backlighting.

Therefore,one has to ask is it worth buying a premium LCD TV,the core of which is a technology that is still evolving.

Puncher wrote:

Same old Trip - as helpful, contstructive and informative as always! I could argue but why bother, you are of course correct - the Samsung is cr4p with little technological worth........it is also likely to be the heart of next years BV7, after Samsung haved moved onto something else.

I'm not sure you could argue. I haven't seen it happen successfully yet. Of course Samsung will be the panels we use. Then we'll add a surround sound processor. Then we'll add video processing. Then we'll add integrated projector support. Then we'll add a PUC to control attached peripherals. Then we'll add a blu-ray player. Then we'll add a 750watt sound system. Then we'll add special anti-glare front glass. Then we'll add hand-machined aluminum. Then we'll add a silent motorized stand or bracket. Then we'll add a masterlink socket. Then we'll add an audio system that plugs into it with a single cable for a completely integrated AV system. Then we'll add a network of sound & video products to link up from elsewhere in the home. Then we'll offer an automation interface to integrate lighting, shades, and temperature. Then we'll add an iPhone app to run it. Then we'll add a 3-year warranty. Then we'll inspire a forum where people can complain about it.