5.1 Surround music remix: what is best BeoLab 5 / 18 / BV11 configuration?

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After 10 months, the BeoLa5 with the Chassis problem will finally be repaired tomorrow. Today I received the Charisma VanDerGraafGenerator box with 5.1 remixes of their great albums on a Blu Ray.

When I tried years ago - for movies - with my BV-11 as centre, BL5's as fronts and BL18's as rear and did not like it at al. So simply moved back to Stereo.Especially the sound from the BV-11 hugely disappointed me then, though without BL5's and making it the main speaker it actually is very good - the last 10 months without BL5.

But for my fave music I want to make an exception and hence wondering how I should configure it to get the 5.1 experience as intended with BV11 with left and right next to it 2 BL5's and behind myself 2 BL18's ?

Apologies if this is basic, but I spent hours then trying....

Rene

Location: Amsterdam

RB

A couple of years ago you had a thread with a similar question.

Didn’t your experiments at that time bring you any further?

 

I can assure you that you can have a decent result with your speaker combination.

A friend of mine has the BV11 (55”) and a set of the BL90’s - and he does not complain.

When configuring the 5.1 Speaker group try adding a couple of db to the BV speakers (set to C, C) than what you would normally set them to, when using a db meter - and also set the distance at 20-30 cm further away than what you actually have measured for tour seating position.

 

The bas management of the BSys4 engine should see to the overall bas management, if you have made the configuration with the right speakers.

 

As alway….a bit of experimenting will always help, since every room is dfferent.

Also the BL5’s can be a bit beasty depending on where they are placed.

 

MM

Location: Flensborg————Danmark

What did you not like? If we don’t know we may steer you in the wrong direction. What exactly did it NOT do that you expected it to do?

Thanks for reminding me that I may have asked you all before for 5.1 - for movies, but I mostly remember trying many things - including maybe your suggestions- but I always found that the best sound -for movies- was when not using the BV11 speakers (and shutting off 5.1).

But since  I now was forced for 10 months to not use the BL5’s at all, I was actually impressed by the BV11 speakers (as main speakers, with BL18’s in the back, in simple stereo mode) when I made them in charge of what before the BL5’s were doing…

back then, with BL5’s as front and BV11 as centre in 5.1 for movies it sounded worse - but main question now is: how would I get the most out of 5.1 music remixes as I guess thats a different animal than movies? 

I guess the best advice is to “experiment” as I can see how it would depend on exact room set-up etc.

thanks for taking time!

Location: Amsterdam

RB

Obviously experiment to see what starts to sound pleasing to you, music wise.

It may be the case that you are in the camp of just preferring stereo for music. I cant bear music upmixed to 5.1.

It can be ok for back ground listening I guess, but personally for anything other than background listening, the true image upmixing doesn't do it for me.

Obviously if you have music source encoded in 5.1, then the true image engine will do a fine job.

But anyway, experiment away, but it may be the case that you end up back listening to music in stereo.

Your comment that using the BV11 in a 5.1 movie setup was not pleasing though is surprising - I've never heard that complaint for movies and that setup. So there may be a sensitivity or expectation you have that is not normal (no criticism at all), and if that setup didn't work for you movie wise, I'm guessing that tinkering with the same speaker set for 5.1 music will not work for you either.

@Rene

Like Mikipedia wrote, what is it that you dislike or miss or….?

MM

Location: Flensborg————Danmark

Update: after 10 months, today the chassis of one of my BL5’s was replaced, so first thing I did was play the 5.1 surround Blu Ray from de Charisma box I received yesterday. First up Undercover Man from their famour Godbluff album, and…. The sound blew me away! What a difference with stereo version!

So for music  i am perfectly happy. This weekend I will put on one of my fave movies again (Princess Bride) and will see it in 5.1 and experiment again… problem previously was that I did not like the centre speaker BV11 where all of the main actors’ talking came and hardly anything came thru the BL5’s… but I will now experiment (better).

thanks again for all advises - happy VdGG + B&O (old style) fan

 

Location: Amsterdam

RB

For my understanding….you mean that you heard the native 5.1 mix of the album - and that this blew you away!?

By the way, I’d like to listen to all these albums (of course in 5.1) - but the box is rather pricey, and all I’d need are the Bluray discs.

 

Please keep us updated with your ‘experiments’.

 

MM

Location: Flensborg————Danmark

If the voices come from the center only, that seems to me mostly a mixing issue on the disc itself. If that somehow is still bothersome and you’d want it from the 5’s you can always turn the bv off and still have surround, the bv will put the center relatively in both left and right bl5 up front. That might be something you can play with.

I meant Receiver 1, not Transmitter 1 :-). 

Location: Amsterdam

RB
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