4K projector in combination with Beosystem4 possible?

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Projectors don't really do HDR properly, from what I understand. While 4K is some improvement, without HDR, where the bigger PQ improvement comes from, I wouldn't rejig that much of your setup.

 thank you again pjk561! will look into it, also saw in the B&O idea catalogue (v.3.2), that Atlona may also offers a solution as they work together with B&O and have also matrix&switches, just need to figure out if it really does what I need. Anybody with experience on that?

Hi Sandyb, unfortunately I did not have the A/B comparison between a really good HD and UHD projector side by side. I sit approx 6.2 meters away from my screen which is 2.4x1.35m wide (roughly corresponding to 108 inch diameter). I suppose the image will be better in 4K compared to 2K, as crisper and sharper by the increase in resolution. HDR itself is indeed not that great on projectors even though this has also improved with the latest models... the reasoning behind my consideration for 4K was to be ready if that format gets widely adopted by netflix and AppleTV streaming, as I normally don't exchange my devices every year and I am willing to invest a little more if it will satisfy my needs also in the future....

hobbes03 wrote:

 thank you again pjk561! will look into it, also saw in the B&O idea catalogue (v.3.2), that Atlona may also offers a solution as they work together with B&O and have also matrix&switches, just need to figure out if it really does what I need. Anybody with experience on that?

I use both the Atlona switch and the matrix with my BeoSystem 4. The switch is what you would need if you want to have BOTH a tv screen and a projector attached to your BeoSystem 4. For regular viewing, the BeoSystem 4 sends the video signal to the tv. When you send the CINEMA command with your BeoRemote, the TV switches off and the video signal is routed to the projector, which turns on if the projector is in the PUC. You won't see the capability to have BOTH a TV and a projector unless you have the Atlona switch attached. The BeoSystem 4 senses if the Atlona switch is attached, and if it is, then you see the options in the BeoSystem 4 menu to have 2 separate video outputs via HDMI. Note that you MUST have the B&O specific version of the Atlona switch in order to have the firmware for the switch to be properly detected by the BeoSystem 4. However, you don't need the switch if you just have a projector and not a TV. Having the switch also provides more automation programming for the timing and signaling for a projector screen, lift, and lights to correspond with CINEMA mode on/off.

The earlier suggestions about an Oppo blu-ray player with dual HDMI and an HDFury audio extractor are good recommendations. When I had a BeoSystem 3 (without 3D) I used the dual HDMI Oppo solution to send the 3D signal directly to the TV while having the audio go to the BeoSystem 3. The downside to having the video signal bypass the BeoSystem is that you lose the menu overlay. A good solution to this is to use a Beo6 so that you can have all of those commands from the menu overlay programmed into Beo6 buttons. The Beo6 is nice to use with a projector anyway since you can see it in the dark.

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Hi Beojeff  - many thanks for your explanation on the Atlona - I guess I would not need the switch, as I only have the projector (the screen is not connected to the network, but can be controlled via bluetooth/iphone app). I am just wondering if you get a 4k signal on the projector if the Atlona does not bypass the Beosystem 4 for the video signal... the point with the menu overlay is actually noteworthy thx, but if it can be solved with the Beo6 that's good to know.

Hi Beojeff  - many thanks for your explanation on the Atlona - I guess I would not need the switch, as I only have the projector (the screen is not connected to the network, but can be controlled via bluetooth/iphone app). I am just wondering if you get a 4k signal on the projector if the Atlona does not bypass the Beosystem 4 for the video signal... the point with the menu overlay is actually noteworthy thx, but if it can be solved with the Beo6 that's good to know.

hobbes03 wrote:

Hi Beojeff  - many thanks for your explanation on the Atlona - I guess I would not need the switch, as I only have the projector (the screen is not connected to the network, but can be controlled via bluetooth/iphone app). I am just wondering if you get a 4k signal on the projector if the Atlona does not bypass the Beosystem 4 for the video signal... the point with the menu overlay is actually noteworthy thx, but if it can be solved with the Beo6 that's good to know.

I agree that the Atlona switch would be unnecessary in your case. In fact, it might be rather annoying to always have to send the CINEMA command to switch from TV to projector if you only use a projector. The BeoSystem 4 user guide is not at all clear about how the Atlona switch works, and BeoCare isn't any help either. I actually had to get help from Atlona to get mine to work. It's confusing that you have hidden menu options that only appear when the BeoSystem 4 detects that there is the exact switch via HDMI recognition. If you ever do a dual TV & projector setup, please feel free to PM me for help.

The HDFury devices should have programable EDIDs so that you can program the separate HDMI connections to make their own independent handshakes to set the correct resolutions independently. Beware of cheaper HDMI splitters that would not be able to do this and would thus set both HDMI connections to the lowest common denominator.

Oh, BTW-

With the Beo6, you can add the IR codes to control your projector and screen directly from the Beo6 if its not supported by a PUC -- if you can find an XML file that someone has made for those devices. The Lintronic code-converter will actually let you create your own XML files to control 3rd party devices with the Beo6.

With regard to the PUC, I recently saw where B&O added some Sony projectors to the PUC database for the BeoSystem 4. I've read that the Sony projectors usually use the same IR codes for basic functions.

Many thanks again Beojeff ! Will consider that. Yes the SONY VPL-H45/65ES have been added to the PUC list which are decent HD projectors. Do you use a 4K (UHD) or HD projector in connection with your Beosystem 4/Atlona? I started wondering if it's really worth to buy the 4K projector considering also KALLASR's / MMs and Sandyb's post and not being entirely sure if it will all work out as planned even with the HDFury or Atlona. Also contacted my B&O dealer to see what he suggests, imagining that I am not the first one to have this issue... Will keep you posted:)

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