Why beogram 4000 may be the best sounding tangential tracking beogram............

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What makes the Danish Customs take action is that the higher value you put on the packet the more the reciving end will be taxed.

So when shipping from US you put on the full insurance and value and so on for the long journey ahead. When it arrives in Denmark the value written is above a certain low amount the reciver will be charged acordentlig.

The only thing it takes is packing the item safely. Only Canada will treat it as a bomb scare first so that is nothing to worry about.

A good example is buying a Soundsmith MMC2 pickup. They send it fully insured and everything. The customs go: We want our bit since the value written is higher. They have no real idea either. For some reason they send it back twice and I then instructed Soundsmith to send it straight without any value written. That worked like a charm. Straight through.

Well since I am the guy whose Beogram 4002 was tagged a “suspected bomb,” and treated accordingly…. let me say I wasn’t the least bit amused. Canada Post leaves much to be desired.

 

However when I ship to the US or Germany there are seldom if ever issues when the package is being shipped for repair and so marked.

 

Not so when shipping to Denmark. The only way to avoid a HUGE customs fee is to ship the package at very low value, but if you do that, the package is essentially uninsured. If lost or broken, you are out of luck.

 

The shipping fee alone one way to Denmark for my Beocord 9000 was about US$380! Then there was the customs fees to add insult to injury.

 

Dillen shipped the 9000 back via Germany and the cost was significantly less.

 

Jeff

Location: Victoria, British Columbia

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Anthony Garza in Texas used to do excellent work on B&O components, but I believe he's stopped taking regular orders. I suspect he might be willing to resuscitate a Beogram 4000, though - they deserve to be kept alive.

You'll find more info about Garza through this link:

Unfortunately, Anthony Garza seems quite tricky to get hold of. I agree that he would have been the recommendation in the past.

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Hi there,

Sorry for the late post on this thread. The Beogram 4000 is by all accounts the "dream table" as others will confer here. It encompasses everything that Jacob Jensen wanted a table to become when he designed it. I have three 4002's, & one 4000 which was HARD to find. I found it on E-Bay from some seller in NYC & it came with a European round power plug. Finding spare parts was another "dream"! 😎, but after long careful stalking I found a seller in Spain who was willing to break a table down & sell parts.

If you can't find a 4000, a 4002 makes an absolutely fine table indeed. In the United States, I see mostly 4002 & 4004 tables. If you come across one that is exceptional, & the price is right, I wouldn't pass it up.  If it comes with ephemera & the original box so much the better. Luckily, one of my 4002's came with the original box, foam inserts, & mountains of brochures, service manuals & catalogs, etc. & was dead ringer mint. I would never sell that table or the 4000.

They play wonderfully, & are a visual delight. I get incredible joy from them.

Keep us posted. 🙂

Duncan

I would agree - the 4002 has a lot missing that the 4000 has but despite that it manages to sound remarkably similar! The 4000 was designed by engineers and I have a suspicion that it probably had a very small profit margin! The 4002 was subject to the bean counters but they essentially removed the fripperies! 🙂 How often do you need an arm to track backwards?!

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