Upgrading from MMC4 to MMC2 disappointed.

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Hello,

I have recently upgraded my MMC4 to an MMC2 but the sound is not special or even better, disappointed of the MMC2. it looks like my MMC4 sounds fuller and better?


Both cartridges are recent re-tipped by Axel Schurholz.

The MMC4 with a elliptical needle. and the MMC2 with the original version.

(i see that both are in very good condition.)

I test new and old records but the sound of the MMC2 is noet special. It sounds lower so i must set more volume on it. The MMC4 sounds fuller and the volume is better and higher.

How is this possible?


My setup:

  • BeoGram 5500.
  • BeoMaster 5500.
  • bose acoustimass am-5.

I pay 199 for the MMC4 and 599 for the MMC2. (euro)

Have you got the tracking force set correctly?

Axels re-tips do seem to like a bit of extra tracking force particularly until the new suspension breaks in.

The MMC2 is to my ears a much better tracker than the MMC4, particualy with siblilances and high frequencies.  

Lee

Lee wrote:

Have you got the tracking force set correctly?

Axels re-tips do seem to like a bit of extra tracking force particularly until the new suspension breaks in.

The MMC2 is to my ears a much better tracker than the MMC4, particualy with siblilances and high frequencies.  

Lee

I second that, I have both types from Axel, on my BG 5000 pizzabox I have the MMC2 set to 1.3 grams and the MMC4 set to 1.5 grams, they both plays at the same volume level, and the MMC2 is clearly better

 

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Thanks for reply.

I know it sounds strange what i say but its true. i don't know why :(

The tracking-force was 1.3

I take some close-up pictures maybe you see strange things?

 

 

 

 

and this is a close-up of my MMC4

 

That looks fine to me but its hard to tell just by looking at photos. 

In what way would you describe the sound of the MMC2? Is it just more quiet? 

Is there anyway you can make a recording and post or link to online?

Lee

 

Perhaps a bit like the MMC20CL ? 

It sounds much less harsh or bright and might sound a bit dull in the wrong setup. 

Just a guess.

Methinks he same goes for the older SP10 (my favourite) compared to the SP12.

I dont think you have an original MMC2 the diamond dont look right, I had an original MMC 4 that one looked just like the ones repaired by Axel

Here a pic of my MMC2 from Axel

 

Location: Mexico city

Retired
Printing machine technician
Restored various 1960-70 items
Rock and Roll music
Collecting Vinyl
Restored Jukebox Wurlitzer 1050

I have a setup where I have a Beogram 4000 with an MMC20CL and a Beogram 8002 with an MMC2 connected to a preamplifier that can switch between the two turntables. I always have to increase the volume on the preamp when I use the MMC2 turntable but the sound is really good. In your case is the thing you are disappointed in the volume or the overall sound?  When you turn the volume up to your favorite listening level is the sound quality of the MMC2 cartridge bad or just different? This type of thing is impossible to resolve through text but like Lee said, if you can record some piece of music with both cartridges we might be able to hear what you are describing. I would expect though, as you expected, that the MMC2 should sound noticeably better (after investing the extra money in it).

I have recording both elements with the same recording level and the same quality.

https://www.zenid.net/mmc/sounds/

Please let me know what you think about this.

 

Than Axel does NOT the right things!

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