Totally agree with Alex, MrAnders-son, and the others. 

I can use the 4 in the dark without looking at it

I cannot use the beo4 in the dark without looking at it because the on-screen LIST commands, you do?.

 I can use the 4 one handed - I can't do that with the 5

I use the beo5 only one handed, everyday, all the time. 

Friends can pick up the 4 and work any element of my set up without my help - can't do that with the 5

That's logic if your beo5 cannot control correctly your B&O set up.

My beo5 can control ALL my B&O equipment lot better than my beo4, because it's correctly configured.

Sorry to read you're not able to do it the same with yours.

Anyway thanks to you an "ebay-er" will be very happy soon.

disclaimer:

i do not own a beo5... so, what that is worth...

i do own (4) beo4's ...and i do like them!

however! i think that the big stinker is the fact that "YOU", the consumer, have no control over your investment.

i would have bought a beo5 yesterday if "I" had control over it...

i, in fact, use a logitech harmony 880. i have "COMPLETE" control over it.

will it replace the beo4's? not necessarily, but it certainly has pre-empted my purchase of a beo5.

...the above is why i selected the beo5 in the "worst b&o design" thread w/ the caveat that if they get it sorted... (i.e) offer some

control to "US" -then i would consider it.

p.s. i am 4+ hours from my nearest dealer -can anyone rightly expect me to travel back and forth to get my beo5 sorted when i can adjust my logitech in +/- 5 minutes over the 'net??? or, just use my beo4(s)???

It would be good if B&O could offer some kind of 'remote config' facility. It could be relatively easily done, meaning a configuration file is sent to the user over the internet via email or whatever, and the user downloads a little tool from B&O which allows them to upload the information to their Beo5. After all, the Beo5 itself isn't needed to do the configuration, the Beo5 config tool essentially emulates a Beo5 allowing you to test it out.

I love my Beo5. My dealer configured mine and I can control my B&O and my non-B&O stuff with it perfectly. I think that if a Beo5 does not control everything you want, then the problem is the configuration, not the remote. It is true that the one needs to look at the Beo5 to use some functions, but for most of the time, I use mine without looking at it, with only one hand.

Alex, IIRC, B&O had planned to release a costumer version of the configuration tool, but as the CEO changed and they had other plans, the project was deleted. (I think I read this on this forum).

Yes Tom,

you love your Beo5, but i resigned totally from Beo5 like discribed in the german thread. 

I would prefer only ONE remote control - BO4 - to control my B&O and other equipement, not TWO ot them.

I don't know why people think they need two remotes? The Beo5 can do everything the Beo4 can, and heck of a lot more on top.

The most common buttons you use on the Beo4 are the arrows, colours and volume - which are all 'hands on' buttons on the Beo5. Very well designed IMO...