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ollie75 posted on Wed, Jan 23 2013 1:05 PM
Hi fellow beofans

At present I listen to a lot of digital music through Apple TV from my computer. I have a BV 7-40 with BL 5's as mains. I did read a previous post talking about better network players for sound reproduction than Apple TV. Some players mentioned were Linn. I also know NAD have a similar product. I figure with such great mains I should give them the best digital input ie 24 bit sound

My question is " what is the best network player for music reproduction"? and would they have the ease/simplicity of the Apple TV with music covers, playlists etc?

Tks for your help

Mark

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Krell recently released one in the latest CES with or without DAC. 

Or you can simply get an Oppo that also function as your DVD/blu-ray player instead?

There are plenty of options out there but I think the Krell might be your best bet since you don't require a DAC but simply a streamer. I think you have to control the Krell with the Ipad though and there will be no video streaming. Maybe the Oppo might be better in this regard? 

 

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WOW, that would take a hours or rather days to answer....

 

I wouldn't chooce a networkplayer, I would prefer a direct connection!

 

If you are into Windows, you could have a small silent pc with 'JRiver Media Center' running - connected via coax or external DAC and analog-in.

Controlled by the iPad-app 'JRemote'

http://www.computeraudiophile.com/content/436-jriver-media-center-17-detail/

http://www.computeraudiophile.com/content/478-jremote-ios-remote-jriver-media-center-review/

www.computeraudiophile.com/content/495-computer-audiophile-pocket-server-c-p-s-v3-lagoon/

 

If you are more into Linux you might take a look at the 'Vortexbox'  - set up as a player. External usb-dac preferred!

http://vortexbox.org/content/121-VortexBox-Appliance

www.vortexbox.co.uk/

Controlled by the app 'mPad':

http://www.katoemba.net/makesnosenseatall/mpad/

http://info.vortexbox.org/tiki-index.php?page=MPoD

 

Or how about a 'Mac Mini' - dig-out or better via external DAC to analog-in - running 'iTunes with ALAC-files'.

'Amarra' or 'PureMusic' for playing highres files bit perfect : 

http://www.headfonia.com/os-x-audio-players-amarra-audirvana-pure-music-fidelia-decibel-and-bitperfect/

Controlled by the 'Remote'-app.

 

Or maybe a Media Core 200 from Meridian controlled by the Meridian-iPad app:

www.tonepublications.com/review/worlds-first-review/

 

For a start Whistle

Greetings Millemissen

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Answered (Verified) symmes replied on Wed, Jan 23 2013 6:32 PM
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@ ollie75  You can connect a Playmaker to a BV7 by converting one of the PL outputs to RCA and connecting to AV5 (or 3) and using a video command to access the output.  I was streaming 24 bit WAV files via OraStream, and it seems to work just fine.  

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He also asked for best quality:

" I figure with such great mains I should give them the best digital input ie 24 bit sound"

That is why I started at the highest level.

There are many ways to get good sound on a set of BL5's.

If  Mark writes again, we could describe a solution "special-designed for his purpose".

But I would like to know a little more of his prefences (if it MUST be a streamer and so on...) and his budget (very important indeed), before getting into details.


@symnes I have used the PM intensively and daily ever since it came out Big Smile - especially the line-in port for high quality files and "heavylistening".

My FLAC-files are on a NAS with a 'LMServer' running. I control a 'Squeezebox Touch' - on line-in/PM connected to my AudioMaster - with the 'Squeezepad' (on iPad).

I use AirPlay mostly for netradio, podcasts, Spotify, background-listening and so on - and occasionally on the  ATV on my Link-tv.

Note: if you use the AirPlay-part of the PM you can very well stream 24bit sound - but it will be downconverted to 16/44.1.

Playing the same files from a Pc/Mac/Linux-solution with a good DAC or a USB TO S/PDIF-converter might give you "full value for the money".

Greetings Millemissen

There is a tv - and there is a BV.

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Answered (Verified) butch1 replied on Thu, Jan 24 2013 7:54 AM
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buy a linn ds ,fantastic source to feed the lab 5 my dad has the same setup, they are pioneers in streaming just now,being what of the first to stop making disc players.5 year warranty aswell.

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Mark wrote in his initial posting: "and would they have the ease/simplicity of the Apple TV with music covers, playlists etc?"

The OPPO is for me the perfect Bluray/DVD/SACD, and...and-player.

It handles audio extremely well.

But.... I would not live with the fact that I would have to turn on the big screen everytime I want to listen to music, scrolling through folders and more... (ever if the OPPO is PUC-controlled).

IPads and tablets are here to stay and they/the apps are perfect tools to control even large music-collections - with "ease and simplicity".

Nowadays we indeed have a lot of possibilities to hear music in excellent quality, managing our files easily - sitting in our "prefered armchair, couch or whatever" with the controlpoint right beside us.

Testing, listening to, reading 'bout experiences with different systems/solutions comes before choosing. A lot of the 3.part-solutions can be integreted very well with a B&O-setup.

Happy experimenting Idea

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Thanks again guys

@ Doubleu.....yes I don't mind navigating on the TV however it's not priority. I would prefer sound over vision

@ butch..... The linn I'm sure is fantastic and if money was no object it would be the first pick. In Australia they retail for around $4500. That's getting up there for a player though. I'd have to hide the receipt from the wife ;)

The more I read about the Oppo, it really does appear to be the all rounder. Can anyone advise how the steaming or audio playback quality is?

Tks again
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Tks millemissen. Just reread your post about the Oppo. I presume u have one then :) How do you play your music through it?
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Hi again,

no I haven't got the OPPO yet. But I know it rather well from friends -  experimenting, testing...  Cool

When I get mine (the 103)  soon, I will not use it for music-playing - other than playing CD's and SACD's (!).

It is too complicated. - as descibed above.

If  it could acts as a renderer, I would use a good control-app (probably the 'PlugPlayer') -  but unfortunatly it can't.

That feature would make it 100% perfect - that is: if you can live without gaplessplay Sad

But I am eager to hear, what others think about it for  playing music-files.

Greetings Millemissen 


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butch1 replied on Thu, Jan 24 2013 8:42 PM

you can by a linn sneaky for £1000,it will beat cd players costing double that.

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ollie75:
Thanks again guys

 

@ Doubleu.....yes I don't mind navigating on the TV however it's not priority. I would prefer sound over vision

 

 

@ butch..... The linn I'm sure is fantastic and if money was no object it would be the first pick. In Australia they retail for around $4500. That's getting up there for a player though. I'd have to hide the receipt from the wife ;)

 

 

The more I read about the Oppo, it really does appear to be the all rounder. Can anyone advise how the steaming or audio playback quality is?

 

 

Tks again

Audio playback as a transport has been considered as state of the art for many. For the older models the recorded output jitter was really quite low around 100psec. And I just did a search up for us and it seems like Iphone/Ipad control over the music server function will be coming soon via a software update. 

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" it seems like Iphone/Ipad control over the music server function will be coming soon via a software update."

Heard about this too - let's see if it is more than just a rumour?

It will have to be MUCH better than the existing control-app to be useable.

If it comes, it means that we can use the OPPO as a renderer - for music too Whistle

Greetings Millemissen

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butch1:

you can by a linn sneaky for £1000,it will beat cd players costing double that.

Okay it seems like you are a Linn expert. What you think of the Kiko? I nearly bought that. Have you gotten the chance of auditioning it? 

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