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mbolo01
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mbolo01 posted on Sat, Feb 8 2020 12:18 PM

Dear app users, here's is a summary of some issues/comments I could find in previous app versions related threads that are still valid with the new app iteration.
I may have missed some, or some have been fixed since, so feel free to update the list while keeping all the items grouped for better reading (copy paste with changes).

Hopefully someone in B&O still reads this forum and cares.

Issues (new, re-introduced and on-going):

  • iPad version: Cannot put products into standby individually, power icon missing per product. Power icon is only available for global standby action.
  • Cannot get the app to control BeoSystem 4500 and BeoSound 2300, each connected to an NL/ML converter.
  • Apps freezing when Internet access is not available while local network access to products is functional.
  • Now playing screen: moving forward/backward within a DLNA track does not work as it should
  • Now playing screen: when changing a DLNA track, album cover is not displayed back until now playing screen is minimized/maximized <-- Issue seen with PLEX DLNA server but not with MinimServer
  • Music browsing: white back (<) and more (...) buttons are not visible when artist/album image background is white <--- Version 3.00 introduces a black back symbol (<) while keeping the more icon (...) white, no comment ....
  • Music browsing on iPhone: top artist/album image overlaps top screen informations
  • Now playing screen: icon depicting the product flashing for a fraction of a second.
  • IOS 3D Touch "shutdown all" option does not do what it is supposed to do but simply opens the B&O App (case opened by mbolo01 - Dec 2019)
  • Multiroom icon not always displayed against products member of a multiroom experience
  • Play queue: When inserting music track(s) to a product play queue, the play queue is emptied prior to loading new content to it which is the correct behavior, but when a TuneIn radio has been played after a music source, loading new music content to the product no longer clears the play queue but instead inserts the new track(s) after the latest music track played (case opened by mbolo01 - Dec 2019)
  • Cover-Art is not displayed when using Airplay while it is when using other music sources such as Chromecast or DLNA.
  • Product Multiroom screen: When a given product is streaming Airplay flow, its Multiroom page indicates that other products cannot join when such source is in use, which is obviously wrong (when products are correctly configured) and which works despite the displayed message.

Note: I have opened a case (#200208-000081) on Feb 8th 2020 for all the points above but the "Cannot get the app to control BeoSystem 4500 and BeoSound 2300, each connected to an NL/ML converter." that i cannot support as I don't have such equipment and "Now playing screen: when changing a DLNA track, album cover is not displayed back until now playing screen is minimized/maximized" which may be a PLEX DLNA poor implementation.

Issues fixed in 3.1:

  • Play Queue: Album Artist is shown for each track instead of Track Artist like in the now playing screen. When listening to Compilations that have "Various Artists" for Album Artist, identifying the track artist in the Play Queue is not possible which is a pity.
  • (introduced in 3.0): Now playing screen: back arrow (<) is black on a dark grey background, hardly visible.
  • (introduced in 3.0): iPad landscape mode the product images are overlapping in the most recent versions.

Issues fixed in 3.00:

  • Beolink settings: When disabled, Integrated devices monitoring option does not stay disabled after app restart (case opened by mbolo01 - Dec 2019)

On-going requests for enhancement by BeoWorld forum members:

  • Ability to “join” NL streams from the app.
  • Lack of virtual keyboard for the Eclipse when a menu where text input is required is encountered, e.g. search field
  • Split view and slide over on the Apple iPad
  • Deezer Flow
  • Possibility to reduce local source list in the now playing screen
  • Genre overview - with much smaller pictures per Genre, so that you see more content without scrolling, e.g to follow the Deezer design (as you did with Artists using round circles instead of squares). Deezer is using small rectangle instead of squares for displaying genre.
  • Clearer multiroom screen, you see all groupings at once, without changing selected products
  • Possibility to alias sources' names, e.g change BS Core "Line In" to "BG 4000"
  • More consistency across screen designs, e.g.  when you choose "show all“ at "Deezer Selection“ the displayed list looks different than all the other lists displayed at  "show all“, why?
  • Now playing screen: changing track by pressing on the image is far too sensitive, lack of inertia
  • Dark mode

 

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Beobuddy:

Update: (for the iPad version)

-They've added an extra context menu when you tap the original standby icon in the product list. You will be asked whether you want to set the complete setup in standby or just the product you've selected. So there's not an extra standby icon, but an added context menu. 

Correct, I already updated this issue status in a more recent thread about B&O App 3.2 version  https://forum.beoworld.org/forums/t/41967.aspx

 

 

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Not sure this is the he latest thread on the b&o app?

There is something that truly confuses me and hope is just a mistake on my end?

Is there any menu where i can see what device is playing what? I’m streaming two different streams to two devices and then extend them to others. It works, but then turns into guessing when i’d like to stop the stream as i don’t remember what was the lead speaker of the second stream.

Also, i don’t think i can pause the stream of the lead speaker without stopping the stream for the rest?
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steve1977:
Is there any menu where i can see what device is playing what? I’m streaming two different streams to two devices and then extend them to others. It works, but then turns into guessing when i’d like to stop the stream as i don’t remember what was the lead speaker of the second stream.
you can see it on the home menu. if you tab a device, the joined devices in one group are all greyed. tab a white device with the joined icon than the other group is greyed.

It works but I prefer the way Beoliving is showing the difference groups though.

Another inprovement would be: Standby for a Linked Group

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steve1977:

Also, i don’t think i can pause the stream of the lead speaker without stopping the stream for the rest?

You cannot. With the App, pausing the lead pauses the group.

But from the physical device itself, or from a remote paired to the lead speaker, pausing the lead with a tap does not stop the other member(s) of the group.

Interesting test for Halo users as for me the Halo is closer to the app than other remotes.

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I am not at home so can’t verify exactly which menus, but from memory after selecting a device you can bring up the control screen with the volume circle. On the right hand side there is either a join icon (or is it the 3 dots?)

There you can see the multiroom group and add or remove devices, and also change each volume individually.

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steve1977:

Is there any menu where i can see what device is playing what?

No, there is no place where you can see all currently playing devices, what they are playing and if they are part of a multiroom group.

As Carolpa wrote, from the main menu you can tap on devices with multiroom icon to identify the grouping, read the bottom of the screen to see what’s playing for that group and tap the multiroom icon to figure who is the lead.

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@steve1977

another way of putting this question: get the needle of the record in the main room's phono and ask yourself if you can hear the record in another, linked, room. 

note: when joining you always listen to the main device of a group; changing the source on the main device, the rest will follow.

What you can do though is: mute the sound of the "group leader" or put the group leader in std.by.

 

@mbolo01

it works like the app, but also as the remotes. I do not see differences or did I miss something?

 

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mbolo01:
read the bottom of the screen to see what’s playing for that group
Normally you will see there the group leader also

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Carolpa:

mbolo01:
read the bottom of the screen to see what’s playing for that group

Normally you will see there the group leader also

Correct, while it is not clearly written, you realize it is the lead speaker as when tapping on other group member, the bottom of the screen still shows the lead speaker, v.s the multiroom screen where the lead speaker it is clearly identified.

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Carolpa:

@mbolo01

it works like the app, but also as the remotes. I do not see differences or did I miss something?

I see two different behaviors:

Assume speaker A is the lead, A is streaming an internet radio, B has joined and is streaming the same.

- If I press II (pause/stop) in the App for the lead speaker, streaming pauses/stops for all speakers of the multiroom group

- If I tap on A, or if I tap on the black button of the Essence remote paired with A , A mutes and B continues playing

 

 

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mbolo01:
Carolpa:
@mbolo01

it works like the app, but also as the remotes. I do not see differences or did I miss something?

I see two different behaviors:

Assume speaker A is the lead, A is streaming an internet radio, B has joined and is streaming the same.

- If I press II (pause/stop) in the App for the lead speaker, streaming pauses/stops for all speakers of the multiroom group

- If I tap on A, or if I tap on the black button of the Essence remote paired with A , A mutes and B continues playing

Isn't this normal behaviour? One is pausing the source from the group leader from playing, the other is muting or putting the device in stb.by. 

 

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mbolo01:
Correct, while it is not clearly written, you realize it is the lead speaker as when tapping on other group member, the bottom of the screen still shows the lead speaker, v.s the multiroom screen where the lead speaker it is clearly identified.
maybe a point for improvement of the app: enhance this black info ribbon. 

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Carolpa:

Isn't this normal behaviour? One is pausing the source from the group leader from playing, the other is muting or putting the device in stb.by. 

It is surely normal behavior, but strange that the app does not offer the same option than the physical or remote, other than reducing the volume of the lead speaker through the multiroom page screen.

I was originally answering to the OP about his concern of pausing the lead speaker that would pause the members too, as I think he would like a way for the members to continue playing. Only a physical product tap or remote tap can achieve it in a simple way as far as I know.

 

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ngnear:

I am not at home so can’t verify exactly which menus, but from memory after selecting a device you can bring up the control screen with the volume circle. On the right hand side there is either a join icon (or is it the 3 dots?)

There you can see the multiroom group and add or remove devices, and also change each volume individually.

Tim

Correct - It is the multiroom icon

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Thanks for all your replies. A few thoughts:

1) Wouldn’t the main page benefit from having some form of indication what the “lead speakers” are? How do you figure this out when you have 3+ speakers in your home setup? Or even more confusing when you have two streams (= two lead speakers)

2) I have two BS1 (both mk2 and both gva). However, they are actually different. One has a white light in the middle of the top that lids up when joining. The other doesn’t have this. I don’t think it’s a bug, but a development over time.

3) My issue with not being able to join was a result of weak wifi. If the wifi is weak (orange or red light), it doesn’t allow to join streams. No idea why the wifi is weak as it sits closely next to an airport extreme. Only if hard-wired, it turns white. Any experience of others how to have stable wifi for the BS1?

4) The touch feature seems inconsistent. I don’t experience what others describe. One touch gives me a pause (if done on lead speaker, all speakers pause). I don’t know whether there is a way to “mute” instead of pause. Also, i haven’t found a way to “pause all”, but only to “stand by all”, which is different.
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