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mbolo01 posted on Sat, Feb 8 2020 12:18 PM

Dear app users, here's is a summary of some issues/comments I could find in previous app versions related threads that are still valid with the new app iteration.
I may have missed some, or some have been fixed since, so feel free to update the list while keeping all the items grouped for better reading (copy paste with changes).

Hopefully someone in B&O still reads this forum and cares.

Issues (new, re-introduced and on-going):

  • iPad version: Cannot put products into standby individually, power icon missing per product. Power icon is only available for global standby action.
  • Cannot get the app to control BeoSystem 4500 and BeoSound 2300, each connected to an NL/ML converter.
  • Apps freezing when Internet access is not available while local network access to products is functional.
  • Now playing screen: moving forward/backward within a DLNA track does not work as it should
  • Now playing screen: when changing a DLNA track, album cover is not displayed back until now playing screen is minimized/maximized <-- Issue seen with PLEX DLNA server but not with MinimServer
  • Music browsing: white back (<) and more (...) buttons are not visible when artist/album image background is white <--- Version 3.00 introduces a black back symbol (<) while keeping the more icon (...) white, no comment ....
  • Music browsing on iPhone: top artist/album image overlaps top screen informations
  • Now playing screen: icon depicting the product flashing for a fraction of a second.
  • IOS 3D Touch "shutdown all" option does not do what it is supposed to do but simply opens the B&O App (case opened by mbolo01 - Dec 2019)
  • Multiroom icon not always displayed against products member of a multiroom experience
  • Play queue: When inserting music track(s) to a product play queue, the play queue is emptied prior to loading new content to it which is the correct behavior, but when a TuneIn radio has been played after a music source, loading new music content to the product no longer clears the play queue but instead inserts the new track(s) after the latest music track played (case opened by mbolo01 - Dec 2019)
  • Cover-Art is not displayed when using Airplay while it is when using other music sources such as Chromecast or DLNA.
  • Product Multiroom screen: When a given product is streaming Airplay flow, its Multiroom page indicates that other products cannot join when such source is in use, which is obviously wrong (when products are correctly configured) and which works despite the displayed message.

Note: I have opened a case (#200208-000081) on Feb 8th 2020 for all the points above but the "Cannot get the app to control BeoSystem 4500 and BeoSound 2300, each connected to an NL/ML converter." that i cannot support as I don't have such equipment and "Now playing screen: when changing a DLNA track, album cover is not displayed back until now playing screen is minimized/maximized" which may be a PLEX DLNA poor implementation.

Issues fixed in 3.1:

  • Play Queue: Album Artist is shown for each track instead of Track Artist like in the now playing screen. When listening to Compilations that have "Various Artists" for Album Artist, identifying the track artist in the Play Queue is not possible which is a pity.
  • (introduced in 3.0): Now playing screen: back arrow (<) is black on a dark grey background, hardly visible.
  • (introduced in 3.0): iPad landscape mode the product images are overlapping in the most recent versions.

Issues fixed in 3.00:

  • Beolink settings: When disabled, Integrated devices monitoring option does not stay disabled after app restart (case opened by mbolo01 - Dec 2019)

On-going requests for enhancement by BeoWorld forum members:

  • Ability to “join” NL streams from the app.
  • Lack of virtual keyboard for the Eclipse when a menu where text input is required is encountered, e.g. search field
  • Split view and slide over on the Apple iPad
  • Deezer Flow
  • Possibility to reduce local source list in the now playing screen
  • Genre overview - with much smaller pictures per Genre, so that you see more content without scrolling, e.g to follow the Deezer design (as you did with Artists using round circles instead of squares). Deezer is using small rectangle instead of squares for displaying genre.
  • Clearer multiroom screen, you see all groupings at once, without changing selected products
  • Possibility to alias sources' names, e.g change BS Core "Line In" to "BG 4000"
  • More consistency across screen designs, e.g.  when you choose "show all“ at "Deezer Selection“ the displayed list looks different than all the other lists displayed at  "show all“, why?
  • Now playing screen: changing track by pressing on the image is far too sensitive, lack of inertia
  • Dark mode

 

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Jaffrey2230
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iPad landscape mode the product images are overlapping in the most recent versions.

My B&O Home: 

 

  • Beolab 8002 + Beolab 2 + Beosound Core with Essence Remote (Office)
  • Beolab 6000 + Beolab 11 + Beosound Core (Bedroom)
  • Beoplay A9 Mk2 (Living Room)
  • Beosound 1 with wireless dock (Portable)
  • Beoplay M5 (Dining)
  • Beoplay H95 (Focused listening, travel)
  • Beoplay H9 (3rd gen) (retired)
  • Beoplay P6 (Portable)
  • Beotime wall clock (hallway entrance)
  • Beoremote X (better than Eclipse and Halo Big Smile)

 

 

 

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« Welcome » to the new multiroom icon!

I really wonder if the app is tested internally prior to distribution outside.

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Another big fix that MrAnderson commented a few years ago is actually a feature request. Sadly enough, it used to work with the APP prior to the current B&O app.

I’m looking for “real” ML/NL support. This does not only include allowing the ML/NL to play sources from other devices, but also allow the ML/NL to join streams. That’s still not possible.

I have an old BV connected to the ML/NL. I’m looking to press “join” within the app to join NL streams. Exactly the same how i can join in with the core or all other NL devices via the APP.

Seems a simple fix, but still not implemented for years.
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Hiort replied on Sun, Feb 9 2020 9:13 AM
Thanks mbolo01 for keeping track of the issues. Yes - thumbs up

 

 

 

 

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steve1977:
I have an old BV connected to the ML/NL. I’m looking to press “join” within the app to join NL streams. Exactly the same how i can join in with the core or all other NL devices via the APP.

Added to the enhancement requests.

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Hiort replied on Sun, Feb 9 2020 9:21 AM
In the multi room page, the upper left arrow does not work.

As mentioned by other poster, the link symbols are now ridiculously small.

Cannot be by design..... I’m puzzled over such lack of quality control...Surprise

 

 

 

 

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Hiort replied on Sun, Feb 9 2020 9:28 AM
Products engaged in multiroom play appear to stay in that state even though I stop the play in the app.

 

 

 

 

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@Hiort, your multi-room page screenshot shows a TV with a “+” allowing you to join it? Does this work even if the TV is turned off? What TV is it?
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Hiort replied on Sun, Feb 9 2020 10:22 AM

steve1977:
@Hiort, your multi-room page screenshot shows a TV with a “+” allowing you to join it? Does this work even if the TV is turned off? What TV is it?

Yes, I can join an ongoing experience from some of my devices. Either by using the app or pressing "join" under "List" on my Beoremote One.

That works even if the TV is off. It turns on the screen and display source and available metadata (no album cover though). After a while the screen dim.

The TV is an Beovision 11-46.

 

 

 

 

 

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Hiort:

In the multi room page, the upper left arrow does not work.

I confirm. It is ridiculous .... how simple thing like that can break in all directions, color, action ...

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steve1977:
I’m looking for “real” ML/NL support. This does not only include allowing the ML/NL to play sources from other devices, but also allow the ML/NL to join streams. That’s still not possible.

I have an old BV connected to the ML/NL. I’m looking to press “join” within the app to join NL streams. Exactly the same how i can join in with the core or all other NL devices via the APP.

Seems a simple fix, but still not implemented for years

No simple fix at all! If not impossible.

ML works with sources. So the ML master can't decide which source it must start when it receive a JOIN command. The only way to make it  work is to set-up the Beolink NL/ML (BLC) IR mapping appropiate (see example). But you will notice limitations (due to devices, ML and NL specs and set-up, etc). Note: still you must start the ML side with a remote.

 

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Carolpa:

No simple fix at all! If not impossible.

ML works with sources. So the ML master can't decide which source it must start when it receive a JOIN command. The only way to make it work is to set-up the Beolink NL/ML (BLC) IR mapping appropiate (see example). But you will notice limitations (due to devices, ML and NL specs and set-up, etc). Note: still you must start the ML side with a remote.

How is it implemented with other NL devices? How does an A9 what stream to join?

The reason i’m saying it should be a simple fix is that it work with the predecessor of the B&O app (without a mapping table).
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steve1977:
How is it implemented with other NL devices? How does an A9 what stream to join?

Tapping on the A9 (or other NL products) start/stop will join the latest NL product that advertised its stream. A double tap on the A9 (or other NL products) start/stop moves to the next active NL product. Simple and efficient.

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steve1977:
How is it implemented with other NL devices? How does an A9 what stream to join?
Example: you have an A6, an A9 and a BV11. On the BV11 the Homemedia is playing a song. Some minutes later the A6 Music is started to play its own song. If you JOIN the A9 it is actually linked with the A6. After a second JOIN command it is linked to the BV11.  

You have always been able to start a ML source in NL with the app. But (to my knowledge) you never been able to start a NL source on a ML master with an app.  

steve1977:
The reason i’m saying it should be a simple fix is that it work with the predecessor of the B&O app (without a mapping table).

Just checked the original Beomusic app (still working on my wife's phone), but I simply can't see how it could be done. You can not address a ML master directly.

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