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355f
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355f replied on Tue, Nov 26 2019 4:37 PM

I am pleased that after one year his problem were solved.

 

I am sure you will agree At this premium level it should have been resolved within a week.

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I think Brexiteers like to tell us it's 'nothing to do with Brexit'. Well here's my theory from running online stores:

 

1) The GBP is terrible. This means buying products priced in EUR or DKK will be far worse than in 2016. ie. profit margin far lower. Back in early 2016 you could almost get 10DKK to 1GBP. It's been as low as 8DKK recently. EUR is even worse. Believe me, when running a business, this affects the bottom line. You must be incredibly naive to think it doesn't. And over time, this can't be sustained.

 

2) People are wary of the future. As a result, they aren't spending the big bucks so easily as they once were. It's hesitancy. This will affect a business selling luxury items within the UK.

 

So, yes, saying Brexit (or the causes of this) is an issue, is true. It's not just a headline for headline sake.

 

 

I have to say I agree with this.

 

And at the end of the day an experienced retailer like Mr Sykes should know whether it has affected his business or not.

I wonder why all the other stores around the world are closing then? 

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Jeff replied on Tue, Nov 26 2019 7:45 PM

I wonder why all the other stores around the world are closing then?

Don't you know? Brexit causes everything from global store closures, poor quality and warranty service, halitosis, and hair loss! There's nothing it doesn't do!

Personally, I blame the Illuminati. Or rather, the Illuminaughti.

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Puncher:

I wonder why all the other stores around the world are closing then?

Ban boring signatures!

Exactly. Smacks of that prat Oliver blaming his crap restaurants closing on Brexit. Most were in France!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7729607/Goldman-Sachs-urges-investors-buy-British-shares.html

Originally read this in the Times but can’t find it.

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Jeff:

I wonder why all the other stores around the world are closing then?

Don't you know? Brexit causes everything from global store closures, poor quality and warranty service, halitosis, and hair loss! There's nothing it doesn't do!

Personally, I blame the Illuminati. Or rather, the Illuminaughti.

Good one, Jeff Big Smile

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brexit aside, what has there been to sell really in the last 18-24 months? an edge?

Personally I feel it has been more the drought of products and very few flawlessly working ones over the last 2 years.

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KMA replied on Wed, Nov 27 2019 3:02 PM
Mikipidia:

brexit aside, what has there been to sell really in the last 18-24 months? an edge?

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Sandyb replied on Wed, Nov 27 2019 3:25 PM

Agreed, though I think that is arguably a bit generous.

There have been few new products, and when one of them, the Edge, makes little or no impact, then the brand loses any current excitement. 

And for all their talk about new products, outside of a sound bar, there is little to come any time soon. 

Lastly, there is a world of difference between not working flawlessly and beta releases with missing functionality, not addressed for many months.

 

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Mikipidia:

brexit aside, what has there been to sell really in the last 18-24 months? an edge?

Personally I feel it has been more the drought of products and very few flawlessly working ones over the last 2 years.

Hopefully,Stage will find  way to (new?) customers

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I sure hope so as the stage is brilliant and so is the harmony, but the drought was real. I think if they can continue like this they’ll be ok.

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Jeff replied on Wed, Nov 27 2019 7:40 PM

KMA:

BeoPlay in seasonal colours Stick out tongue

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Careful, you'll give the more sensitive B&O lovers a case of the vapors!

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It's been my experience selling B&O from the the end of 1999 until very recently that B&O has followed many of the wrong trends and where it's followed the right ones, it's been somewhat blindsided but the challenges of those parts of the business. 

Specifically that the high-ticket sales have trended more toward large custom installations rather than a few luxury items like expensive TVs & 2-channel speaker setups and they've basically either ignored, or in recent history, antagonized that channel. 

Then they've created some really fabulous bluetooth speakers and headphones but seemed to be shocked that they flood into the market and wind up getting marked down through online channels and brick & mortar B&O dealers are left as service points for broken headphones and dead speaker batteries as well as a place to try them on for size before ordering them off Amazon before even leaving the store. 

So while the products they have are pretty good, the holes in their lineup and their approach to core business and retail business are just goofy.

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B&O should look into a tiered retail strategy - have a web store where someone can buy any product they choose and also schedule service etc. Have a store in a store type outlet where they focus on Bose/Sonos competitor line products and then have Beoplay and B&O Premium Stores. The premium stores can focus on the high end line. Also, they might want to work more closely with independent high end dealers etc.

I like their current products but there is almost no retail presence in the US. Also, from friends I heard that the experience in the ones that exist isn’t all that great since the dealers are not very knowledgeable or helpful. I haven’t been to one in a decade. There used to be one near me and they were very good. Almost all my B&O speakers other than the A9 was bought from them. At the time the customer service was really good.

 

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  • Beoplay H95 (Focused listening, travel)
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  • Beoplay P6 (Portable)
  • Beotime wall clock (hallway entrance)
  • BMW X5 50i with B&O Audio Package (Commute/drive)

 

 

 

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