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BV 7-32 MK V HDMI sound over Masterlink?

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MJBeo
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MJBeo posted on Fri, Nov 16 2018 7:45 AM

Hi everyone, I have a short question: can the sound of a HDMI source on the Beovision 7-32 MK V be distributed over masterlink? Or do I also need to connect analogue sound connections (e.g. via the scart).

Background: I currently own a 7-32 MK3 and play music through my AppleTV (4th generation) throughout the house using a HDMI > HDMI+sound splitter, but I would like to get rid of that device once I upgrade to a 7-32 MK V. There are too many converters in my TV cabinet. I have found in the reference manual on the B&O site only some statements about digital video and sound not being distributed, but that concern the older 7-32 models without HDMI. In the addendum of the reference manual that does concern HDMI it only states that the HDMI video cannot be distributed via the masterlink /RF amplifier, but that does not matter to me.

Thank you in advance, your input is much appreciated!

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DMacri replied on Fri, Nov 16 2018 10:11 AM
I’m fairly certain you have to use the analog connections to route audio through Masterlink and/or MCL to link rooms. That seems to be how my BS3 works.

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elephant replied on Fri, Nov 16 2018 10:36 AM
My BV8-40 also routes my ATV’s HDMI Audio and my STB HDMI Audio over the ML.

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MJBeo replied on Fri, Nov 16 2018 11:48 AM

DMacri:
I’m fairly certain you have to use the analog connections to route audio through Masterlink and/or MCL to link rooms. That seems to be how my BS3 works.

I thought my other option was to buy a beovision 7-40 mk3 or higher, with the integrated Beosystem 3 inside to allow distribution of digital sources, but are you sure your beosystem needs the analogue connection?

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You can not distribute digital connected (via HDMI) sources from a BSys3-based tv to the ML chain.

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MJBeo replied on Fri, Nov 16 2018 1:07 PM

I also called some dealers and browsed some more on Beoworld: it appears there is no way to distribute the sound of HDMI sources over masterlink. Not with BS3, not with BV7-55 MK2, not with BV8 or BV10 - they all need a converter to de-embedd the audio from the HDMI. Only netlink products can do this (but delay, converters to Masterlink and to MCL... not worth it at all).

My best option is to get a HDMI matrix switch with audio de-embedder to have the correct signal, for example the already discontinued https://atlona.com/product/at-hd4-v42/, which can also be used to distribute the other HDMI source to another TV.

We live and learn with B&O! Thank you for your input. If I am wrong, please let me know and post a schematic of your setup!

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Just to let you know: this is possible with a BSys4-based product.

New generation, new possibilities.

Here airplayed stuff to my ATV on my Avant and listening/joining in on my V1-32

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Stones replied on Fri, Nov 16 2018 11:30 PM
I have a BV7-40 MKVI fed by an Apple TV 4 connected via HDMI only and able to distribute the sound to the masterlinked BL3500. Tested tonight. Condition is that the BV is showing the source, i.e. I cannot start the source from the link room
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MJBeo:

it appears there is no way to distribute the sound of HDMI sources over masterlink. Not with BS3, not with BV7-55 MK2, not with BV8 or BV10 - they all need a converter to de-embedd the audio from the HDMI.

I disagree wrt the BV8-40!

I am not sure of its level of “beosystem” sophistication. It had never occurred to me to ask. But the product was launched circa 2007 and then there was a firmware upgrade that added the hdmi audio to ML capability.

Like the others I retested before posting.

However to confirm here is some visual evidence !

ATV HDMI to BV8-40

BV8 ML to BeoSound 4

BV8 ML to BLC

BLC NL to Essence and also to Core

Case closed ?

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But rhe BV8 will have to be active/on to do this?

Or can you just send sound to the ATV via AirPlay and then listen to it on the ML device/the BS4?

After all it is probably only possible because you involve the converter - in a pure ML network it won’t work, or?

MM

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elephant replied on Sun, Nov 18 2018 12:02 PM
Millemissen:

But rhe BV8 will have to be active/on to do this?

Or can you just send sound to the ATV via AirPlay and then listen to it on the ML device/the BS4?

After all it is probably only possible because you involve the converter - in a pure ML network it won’t work, or?

Yes.

Don’t know: was this a requirement from the OP?

True; most likely - however I will test, because as we know a BV can handle N.Music without its screen being on.

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MJBeo replied on Sun, Nov 18 2018 2:30 PM

I actually would like to stick with a beovision 7 model. 32 or 40 inch. And my setup is MCL, with only the TV being ML. So I do not require digital music over the ML/MCL, but I would like to have a sinple setup with a beovision > hdmi connected sources, and listen to the sound of the tv on other rooms (listen when the commercial break is over while getting snacks in the kitchen, or listening to music through apple TV in the study). For financial and aesthetic reasons I do not want to go to an NL setup (yet).

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Guy replied on Sun, Nov 18 2018 4:44 PM

Why not just go ahead with the TV upgrade, test out the audio distribution and if it doesn't work simply re-connect the hdmi audio extractor that you have at the moment?

You say that there are 'too many converters in your TV cabinet', but so what?  If it makes you feel better, mine (supplying a BV6-26) looks like this:

(The cabinet door is normally closed so I don't let it worry me Smile)

 

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elephant replied on Mon, Nov 19 2018 12:17 AM
Guy:

Why not just go ahead with the TV upgrade, test out the audio distribution and if it doesn't work simply re-connect the hdmi audio extractor that you have at the moment?

You say that there are 'too many converters in your TV cabinet', but so what? If it makes you feel better, mine (supplying a BV6-26) looks like this:

(The cabinet door is normally closed so I don't let it worry me )

You’re brave!

I once showed my cabinet’s rats nest and I was castigated Big Smile

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