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Beolab 90 - interested in purchase, questions and any owners here?

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joey_v
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joey_v posted on Fri, Oct 26 2018 3:10 PM

I am interested in the Beolab 90 speaker system, would have to sell off my current audiophile set up and buy the 2 speakers plus keep my current digital source. 

 

Question - are there any owners here who can share their experience with the 90?  

 

Can you bypass the DAC internal to the 90 and use a more resolving DAC or digital source?  Meaning, can the 90 play an analog signal (perhaps coming from an analog out of a SACD player or a phonopreamp)?

 

How good are they as stereo speakers?  

 

Thx,

JV

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joey_v replied on Sat, Oct 27 2018 8:26 AM

Impressive upstreams.

 

My Emm will be a couple notches below your Vivaldi but I know the Emm DA2 (one above mine) compares very favorably against the Vivaldi.

 

My friend has the full 4 box Vivaldi stack and at 110,000$ for the upstreams, it sounds fantastic.  Not much can beat that stack other than an MSB.

 

I am glad to hear you have successfully mated the 90 with a true source.

 

as I say, the speaker is only as good as the data it is Fed.

 

its too bad I would lose my top of the line Audioquest WEL signature speaker wires....

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It’s a lot of money for music. I can understand that one buys expensive gear but I’m curious how much this is for people who buys them. I wouldn’t like to spend 50% of my net income on speakers and sources for it, but if it was 5% or less I wouldn’t mind.

I would rather prefer to also invest in listening live to the gain the best experiences. At home I’m not focused on the music in itself, I want to be moved and be in an environment specifically tailored for it. Not listen to it from microphones and downmixed.

Thoughts on this? Smile
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Price is a funny thing,

The price for BEOLAB 90 is actually cheap when we talk high end.

Many other systems are much more expensive then the BEOLAB 90 with amp and cables.

For me I can understand people and for my self a set of Beolab 90 could be possible, also a used market is beginning.

5% of what? your income, or your assets, because if it is your income, then it would be quit easy if you just have lived long enough.

 

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I have BeoLab 90s as my front speakers (and BeoLab 50s as rears). The sound from them is extremely impressive, with an almost holographic soundstage on well-recorded albums. Unlike your sources, all mine are B&O, and vintage (since B&O no longer makes sources of an audiophile quality). I have everything from a quadraphonic turntable and amplifier (connected using attenuators) to a reel-to-reel deck connected. When I get round to it, I'll do a full post on here about my system, including pictures, as it must be among the must unusual B&O setups in the world.

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Emil Jensen:

Price is a funny thing,

The price for BEOLAB 90 is actually cheap when we talk high end.

Many other systems are much more expensive then the BEOLAB 90 with amp and cables.

joey_v:

its too bad I would lose my top of the line Audioquest WEL signature speaker wires....

I’d be extremely happy not to need these!

https://petertyson.co.uk/audioquest-wel-signature

MM

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OldJack replied on Sat, Oct 27 2018 10:37 PM

I’d be extremely happy not to need these!

https://petertyson.co.uk/audioquest-wel-signature

MM

 

If I drink two beers less on a daily basis, I could afford 8 inches of that cable by  Xmas 2019.

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joey_v replied on Sun, Oct 28 2018 4:14 AM

Michael

Michael:
It’s a lot of money for music. I can understand that one buys expensive gear but I’m curious how much this is for people who buys them. I wouldn’t like to spend 50% of my net income on speakers and sources for it, but if it was 5% or less I wouldn’t mind.

 

 

I would rather prefer to also invest in listening live to the gain the best experiences. At home I’m not focused on the music in itself, I want to be moved and be in an environment specifically tailored for it. Not listen to it from microphones and downmixed.

 

Thoughts on this? Smile

Michael

The 90 would equal about what I have invested in my stereo.  I think the gains are there, there is a density to the sound from truly high end speakers... an experience that has a high initial cost but is free afterwards.  The ability to conjure up the band AND the hall is very fulfilling.

 

 

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joey_v replied on Sun, Oct 28 2018 4:14 AM

Michael

Michael:
It’s a lot of money for music. I can understand that one buys expensive gear but I’m curious how much this is for people who buys them. I wouldn’t like to spend 50% of my net income on speakers and sources for it, but if it was 5% or less I wouldn’t mind.

 

 

I would rather prefer to also invest in listening live to the gain the best experiences. At home I’m not focused on the music in itself, I want to be moved and be in an environment specifically tailored for it. Not listen to it from microphones and downmixed.

 

Thoughts on this? Smile

Michael

The 90 would equal about what I have invested in my stereo.  I think the gains are there, there is a density to the sound from truly high end speakers... an experience that has a high initial cost but is free afterwards.  The ability to conjure up the band AND the hall is very fulfilling.

 

 

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joey_v replied on Sun, Oct 28 2018 4:16 AM

OldJack:

I’d be extremely happy not to need these!

https://petertyson.co.uk/audioquest-wel-signature

MM

 

If I drink two beers less on a daily basis, I could afford 8 inches of that cable by  Xmas 2019.

Cheers Beer

I have a pair of 8 footers... yikes!

 

Single biwire.

 

maybe I’ll just keep it in case I go back to traditional speakers after the 90.  The WEL are seriously good.

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joey_v replied on Sun, Oct 28 2018 4:19 AM

Emil Jensen:

Price is a funny thing,

The price for BEOLAB 90 is actually cheap when we talk high end.

Many other systems are much more expensive then the BEOLAB 90 with amp and cables.

For me I can understand people and for my self a set of Beolab 90 could be possible, also a used market is beginning.

5% of what? your income, or your assets, because if it is your income, then it would be quit easy if you just have lived long enough.

 

 

you are absolutely correct.  As a unit the 90 is fairly priced.

 

i am a little uncomfortable losing the ability to tweak the components but I can accept that if the 90 really sounds like I think they should sound like.

 

whats the retail of the 90 before discount?  $80,000?

 

my speakers are $22,000, the amp is a Boulder which is 50,000.  The wires are 40,000.  The source is 30,000.  The preamp is 8,000.

 

plus I was looking at dual JL Audio Gotham’s which are 12000 each.

 

if I consolidate and keep some of the wires such as the xlr cabling and the power cords and keep the digital source, I come out even.

 

pkus the 90 is room independent (sort of).

 

 

 

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koning replied on Sun, Oct 28 2018 9:44 AM

Now only a decent audio player to feed them😎😎😎

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joey_v:

The wires are 40,000.

I have really good powerlink cables I can sell for hslf of that Big Smile....

Sorry, I do not believe in cable voodoo. There might be be bad ones out there but no way cables can be worth that much.

Ralf

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joey_v replied on Sun, Oct 28 2018 11:41 AM

kallasr:
joey_v:

 

The wires are 40,000.

 

 

 

I have really good powerlink cables I can sell for hslf of that Big Smile....

 

 

Sorry, I do not believe in cable voodoo. There might be be bad ones out there but no way cables can be worth that much.

 

 

Ralf

Ralf, 

 

We are not going down the path of a cable discussion. 

My system, my ears, my choice. 

I will say, I was never a cable believer and ran the simplest cable configuration with all my systems, until I was able to borrow a midpriced unit.  I did not believe it was going to change my mind, but somehow it did.  Repeatable.  So I searched my contacts for the best possible used cable and I landed my entire loom.  I did not pay retail of $4000, maybe I paid 15-20% of that for the whole lot which is a lot less than you would see it for sale on audiogon. 

But I will agree, no way cables are worth that much.  The cushion for profit is insane.  

But given what's out there, the amount I paid for my cables - I'm calling it done for a long long long time... I don't see the need to get the next generation top of the lines as the difference will be incremental IMHO.  Part of the reason why I liked my acquisition was that I was able to get the best Audioquests for a reasonable price and it keeps my mind at ease, removes any doubt to upgrade for maybe a decade or more.   Peace of mind is priceless. 

If I move to the 90, I will connect to the wall with the WEL power cord. 

I will keep whatever interconnects I have left and feed the 90 whatever outside sources. 

I will also probably just keep the WEL speaker wire for future use as I don't see myself getting rid of them. 

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joey_v replied on Sun, Oct 28 2018 11:59 AM

So, for those of you who have heard or own the 90, what other speakers did you compare them to or upgrade from?

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Mr 10Percent:

This may be of use:-

https://www.tonmeister.ca/wordpress/bo-tech/

...and this might be a starting point there:

http://www.tonmeister.ca/wordpress/2015/10/06/beolab-90-behind-the-scenes/

MM

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