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Sound quality Beocenter 9300 and RL1000 speakers

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EvDa
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EvDa posted on Sat, Mar 17 2018 3:50 PM

I am sorry if I put this thread in the wrong forum. I just bought a Beocenter 9300 and RL 1000 speakers.

I used to have a Harman Kardon set with Infinity Delta speakers.

I must say, the B&O design is stunning but the sound quality is realy below average. And I wonder, I want to ask you, if this is related to the plastic RL 1000 speakers or the amplifier of B&O. Before I change the speakers, I want to be sure.

Realy, in this combination I have now, the sound quality is below average. And that is an understatement. 

To resume; is it worth to buy better speakers or not?

 

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Saint Beogrowler
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The RL 1000 really are horrible, they are best used as background noise speakers. I’d try better speakers.
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EvDa replied on Sat, Mar 17 2018 5:40 PM

I think so too, but is the amplifier worth it? I meen, is the poor quality a result of the speakers or the amplifier, or both?

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Mostly the the speakers. The shortcomings of the amplifier in the BC9300 won’t be noticeable unless you have speakers of much greater resolution and even then the BC9300 is pretty good. And you can add active speakers to the powerlinks if the on board amp is not satisfying.

If you want to go all raging audiophile, there are other B&O routes to take. But for pleasurable everyday listening, better speakers and the BC9300 will get you there. You’d be surprised at the difference Beovox RL60.2 or RL6000 will make compared to the RL1000s.
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EvDa replied on Sat, Mar 17 2018 6:26 PM

Thanks mate!

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Irvine replied on Sun, Mar 18 2018 12:15 AM

 I have used CX 100 speakers and a Cona subwoofer with my Beocenter 9000 for years. I had the speakers refoamed and rebuilt and they sound absolutely lovely. I don’t know if you can find those but, for a room no larger than 20‘ x 20‘, they are ideal.    I use of Beosound Essence Mark I to stream the music and it works beautifully.  Steve at Sounds Heavenly supplied all the cabling.  Might be worth your time to look into.  The Beolink 1000 remote can control all of it.

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Irvine replied on Sun, Mar 18 2018 12:22 AM

The new powered Beocreate with Raspberry Pi may also be an interesting experiment for using a rebuilt pair of CX 100 speakers, too.

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EvDa replied on Thu, Mar 22 2018 4:11 PM

What about the CX100; would that be an improvement?

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EvDa:

What about the CX100; would that be an improvement?

Some. It won’t have the distortion of the RL1000 but the CX100 alone are at their best in a small room. With the Cona and with careful room placement, the CX100 are enjoyable in a moderately sized room.

I like them as secondary room speakers rather than main speakers.
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auric replied on Fri, Mar 23 2018 4:19 AM

Hi: The 9500/9300 series out of the box sounded OK. I never found the sound offensive. The amp sounded a little bright and harsh to my ears. I lived with the sound for several years.

 

Member Menahem here has come up with a series of upgrades to the components in the signal path and power supply that really makes the 9500/9300 sound fantastic.

Here's a partial description of what he does:

http://www.condoraudio.com/wp-content/uploads/Projects/BeoCenter-8000-8500-9000-9300-9500-Receiver-Upgrade-Repair.pdf

He can upgrade the unit for you. Well worth it since the improvements are worthy of the aesthetics of the unit.


Derek

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