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Saw your video of the new 50’s master speaker - great that it is working well now....enjoy it!

By the way, you mentioned, that the BL17 would come off the wall again!

Did I hear that right - if yes, why?

Any particular reason - to be placed somewhere else - not as  hight channels anymore, or?

P.S. I guess you have receved/read the mail I send you!

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Mikipidia replied on Sun, Sep 29 2019 9:47 PM

Hi MM,

 

you heard it right, I'll take them off the wall to properly test and compare them to the 18's and put them next to each other. as it stands it's not a fair comparison as part of what you hear is the difference in the room and not necessarily the speakers. So I will keep on using them as I have them set up now in the end but to properly show them in the correct state I'll bring them down Big Smile

 

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Thanks for answering.

How are they mainly set up now? As height speakers? Or as surrounds with the 18’s as rears?

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Mikipidia replied on Sun, Sep 29 2019 10:27 PM

They're set up as height surround while everything is on and the 18's are rears in that case. I also have them as a stereo group on their own and as full left and right side. for the latter the whole left side is set to left and the whole right side is set to right.

all works great except for the wisa being dodgy at times, but I will look in to it as christian said Smile

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Not sure how common knowledge this is but i just fixed the laggy wifi on my eclipse and iam banging my head that i didn’t know this sooner. YouTube and netflix very often had to buffer but it doesn’t anymore now. All i had to to is turn of the lg screen shar function, it takes away enough bandwith to just make it laggy/stuttery which is really annoying with 200/200 internet...

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jvezina replied on Thu, Oct 3 2019 8:54 PM

Mikipidia:
Not sure how common knowledge this is but i just fixed the laggy wifi on my eclipse and iam banging my head that i didn’t know this sooner. YouTube and netflix very often had to buffer but it doesn’t anymore now. All i had to to is turn of the lg screen shar function, it takes away enough bandwith to just make it laggy/stuttery which is really annoying with 200/200 internet...

 

 

Good evening,

Yes, this is even documented on the on-line Eclipse manual, but not in an obvious way. This feature is taking a lot of resources on Wifi.

https://support.bang-olufsen.com/hc/en-us/articles/208692569-Media-files-smartphones-and-tablets

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  • Listen Mode may affect the performance of your wireless connection when connected to an AP. If there are any issues related to wireless performance, it is recommended to turn off Listen Mode."

 

Regards,

Jean

 

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MaxH replied on Thu, Oct 3 2019 9:08 PM

Just switched mine off - not certain if it’s my imagination but it seems to stream smoother now.

Thanks for the tip.

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I hadn’t spotted that, nor was is very clear that this did that and had such a big affect. I mean, my router is 50-75 centimeter away from where ever the wifi antenna is in the tvConfused

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MaxH replied on Thu, Oct 3 2019 9:28 PM

I had no idea either. 
I don’t have a wi-fi problem but Netflix and iPlayer definitely seem to  stream better.

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I didn’t exactly have a wifi problem, the only device that is slow was the eclipse. With netflix it often dropped to someting like 480p and that looks *** obviously Stick out tongue

For some reason a song, Bicep - Glue, always stuttered after 5 seconds for 2 and then played fine. No issue anymore and great song to listen toBig Smile even 4k YT is instantly there now in 4kLets have a Party !!!

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Hi everyone,

Tomorrow we’ll be live as per usual at 8pm/7pm/1pm AMS/UK/CST USA on my YouTube channel(link to follow). Aaaand the irrisistible John from Bang & Olufsen in Manchester will join us once again!Lets have a Party !!!

So have your questions ready for him or send them to my email: mikipedi4@gmail.com

Also for topics and suggestions obviouslyStick out tongue

Also if you guys have anymore photo’s to share, that would be wonderful Big Smile

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Mikipidia replied on Thu, Oct 10 2019 8:22 PM

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Razlaw replied on Thu, Oct 10 2019 11:47 PM
Looks good!
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Mikipidia replied on Fri, Oct 11 2019 3:43 PM
Razlaw:

Looks good!

It really does Big Smile

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Mikipidia replied on Sun, Oct 13 2019 4:52 AM

Hi everyone,

 

 

Tomorrow/Tonight we’ll be live as per usual at 8pm/7pm/1pm AMS/UK/CST USA on my YouTube channel(https://youtu.be/SomobiuuR6g ). And Henrik should be back after a long night work for Showing all you Danes Formula 1Lets have a Party !!!

 

So have your questions ready for him or send them to my email: mikipedi4@gmail.com

 

Also for topics and suggestions obviouslyStick out tongue

 

 

Also if you guys have anymore photo’s to share, that would be wonderful Big Smile

Have any of you seen and heard the Harmony in the flesh yet? What did you think?

 

 

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What does this company do that B&O does not do.....or maybe should do?

https://www.savanteurope.co.uk/case-studies

https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20190530005521/en/

....a soundbar with WiSA transmitter built-in:

https://youtu.be/XFxXXBcdsoE

And - of course - what does B&O do, that Savant does not do?

What comes next from B&O - what is the new ‘rumoured’ streaming platform.

 

Interesting stuff IMO.

What do you guys think?

 

MM

 

 

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Mikipidia replied on Sun, Oct 13 2019 11:27 AM
Hi MM,

Thanks, sent it to the guysBig Smile

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Another one for tonight.

In the specs of the BS Stage they don’t mention support for TuneIn - only CC and AP2 are mentioned (and BT plus QPlay for the chinese).

Can this be true?

Maybe Christian - if in the chat - can answer that question?

In the first setup video for the Stage - basics for connection to a(ny) tv - they also just mention CC and AP2.

The video is here:

https://youtu.be/dZhXh_b-t7o

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Mikipidia replied on Sun, Oct 13 2019 7:08 PM

aaaand we're live again right now :D

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Mikipidia replied on Tue, Oct 15 2019 1:41 AM

something a little different, but it's an excellent product by B&OBig Smile

https://youtu.be/4JLtVyvkOm0

 

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Mikipidia replied on Wed, Oct 16 2019 1:09 AM
Working on the next video Big Smile

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Mikipidia replied on Wed, Oct 16 2019 9:45 PM

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8e5p3aUt3Ik

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Nice......but John beat you 🤓

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Mikipidia replied on Wed, Oct 16 2019 11:30 PM

with what? I think they're different enough ( and no fair, he's a dealer and his shipping was quicker!!!) Stick out tongue

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Mikipidia replied on Thu, Oct 17 2019 8:14 PM

All made possible by B&O Ter Horst in Utrecht, the Netherlands. So if you’re in the are, drop by and have a lookBig Smile

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Mikipidia:

with what? I think they're different enough ( and no fair, he's a dealer and his shipping was quicker!!!) Stick out tongue

Both videos on the same day - Johns a bit earlier.

Sure they are different - room for both 🙂

Thanks to both of you!

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Mikipidia replied on Fri, Oct 18 2019 2:37 PM

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=h-k3lUyHBe0

The other video is done, see you all tonight Big Smile

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Mikipidia replied on Sun, Oct 20 2019 3:33 AM
Hi everyone,

Tomorrow/Tonight, as per usual, we’ll be live at 8pm/7pm/1pm AMS/UK/CST USA on my youtube channel(link down below). It’s been a good week and I hope you guys enjoyed the videos?

We’ll be going over the past week so have your questions ready for us or send them to my email: mikipedi4@gmail.com Same goes for topics and suggestions obviouslyLets have a Party !!!

Also if you guys have anymore photo’s to share, that would be wonderfulCool

Have any of you seen and heard the Harmony or the Stage in the flesh yet? What did you think?

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Interesting discussion about he behaviour of the BV Harmony, when playing ‘only-sound content’ from a video source (e.g YT) when using external L/R speakers for the playback.

 

I wonder what happens, when you want to upmix a 2 channel source/stereo from an audio source (e.g Deezer) to 5.1 using the TrueImage processing?

How will the built-in speakers work in that case? Should be the center speaker, then!

Will it the be open (as when in video mode)?

And what with the screen - since there is nothing to show....apart from (maybe) metadata from the source? Will that be on or muted?

Will the screen show which audio mode you are in, when you change mode (or speaker group)?

Imagine changing from audio mode to the 5.1 upmixed playback (of the same source) and back again - will be gorgeous to watch the waving lamellas 🤔

 

P.S. Will be fun to ask the dealers these questions 🤓

 

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Mikipidia replied on Mon, Oct 21 2019 6:28 PM
I think so too and will inquire again to see what’s what. I would really like it as an option. Even if the meta data isn’t showing i’d like a stand option for when i decide the screen is off, or that coincides is fine too for me. Glad iam not the only one in this for once Stick out tongue

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Another interesting thing is the fact, that the Stage originally was meant to be a soundbar for ALL tv’s....

.....and that the possibility of interacting with the LG/C9-tv and the controlling of both with the BeoRemote One was a bonus, an ‘add-on’.

It might seem right in order to reach a broader costumer base (in third party shops) - but it certainly is not sweet music in the ears of a long-time B&O user.

Imagine the Stage would just work with a tv without B&O integration - there would only be the BV Harmony and an old BV Eclipse to sell for the dealers and to buy for ‘old-time B&O users’.

Without the possibility to control a (C9) tv with the Beoremote One, the Stage would just be ‘another soundbar’....or a nice but rather dull BeoSound.

 

Glad they changed that decision, but a bit worried for the future.........if B&O controlling would come second in new products.

Just look, what you can buy as of today from B&O, when you want a BV, that is uptodate........a 77” heavy and rather pricey tv!

 

See the comment made in the chat during the podcast from Christian Klit, who - I suppose - should know, what he is talking about.


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Before we start 3rd world war, let me just clarify that that particular comment was in regards to the design, which was being discussed at this moment (speaker width vs tv width).

Stage is intended to be a soundbar for all customers that want (really) great Bang & Olufsen sound at an affordable price point. Some of these customers may be previous owners of a B&O TV, but left for another TV-brand, often because of price. That's fair enough.

But many of these customers, and I know there are a few in here as well, has soon realized that the sound is lacking. Stage can fill that gap. They may not get B&O control, but they will get true B&O sound.

 

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I know, Christian - but as a long time B&O user and lover, I prefer focussing on the B&O controlling....

.....that the Stage can be used by all tv users is of course very welcome and a good move from the ‘deciders’

No war intended - just don’t forget, that a lot of the (previous) B&O costumers would like (to continue) to buy B&O controlled and equiped tv’s..

If there will be a BV Eclipse MK2 or another tv with similar integration and audio processing in near future, you will see me smile 🙂

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christiank replied on Mon, Oct 21 2019 10:01 PM

Same goes for myself, and I'm not worried :) 

 

 

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christiank:

Same goes for myself, and I'm not worried :) 

That chears me up!

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...cheers me up!

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Mikipidia replied on Tue, Oct 22 2019 12:46 AM
Will you then buy one or will you stick with the avant/beoplay v1? I mean, it could push them into doing more if they have solid presales numbers Stick out tongue

With regards to the b&o control, i think that’s mostly a thing for long time users like you or i, and you probably more so than me even. There are plenty of people that don’t realy mind what controls what, as long as it works. Most of my b&o stuff is fairly segragated so I could live with out it but choose not too, but for people like Willie or Henrik it would be horrific to change Stick out tongue

I love the stage and love it even more that you’d don’t have to comply with a bunch of prerequisites to use it. Just as much as we love b&o and not b**e or s*no*, others love samsung over lg and or sony, and no they can enjoy b&o sound too and keep loving the other bits they love too. And in those cases, fortunately there’s the app to fill in the gap.

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No, I will not buy a Harmony - it is way too big for our livingroom (we still don’t know if there will be a 65” version of it).

In the right room it looks gorgeous.

But the speakers part can be very dominant, optical and from design.....in a somewhat smaller room.

However, it sounds amazing even on its own......having heard it on several occations!

And - with my way of using media, I would have trouble with the 28 seconds movement of the ‘wings’ - let’s see, if there will be some options there later.

(First thing I did with my BV’s was to make it start quicker!).

Besides - this simply can’t be the only full equiped B&O-tv, that they offer - we need something to choose from.....at least two solutions.

 

And I won’t buy the Stage either - simply because I have no need for a tv with a soundbar-only.....at least not in my livingroom.

Maybe some day - as a replacement for my V1 in the second livingroom/guestroom/office it might come handsome.

However, I have grown acostumed to the 5.1 setup I have there.

 

As for soundbar (from B&O), I think it is a splendid idea - a lot of those, who do not know how B&O can sound, will be very pleased and probably will love it..

But it is a soundbar (with a bought-in) Dolby processing and some added B&O-magic for the tuning of the speakers - and it looks nicer that most soundbars.

But do allow me - we are on a B&O enthusiast forum - to wish for more.

Geoff Martin once wrote an article about the sound part of the Eclipse called ‘It is not just a soundbar’.

https://www.tonmeister.ca/wordpress/2017/09/15/bo-tech-its-not-just-a-soundbar/

That is a describtion of what I need and wish for - with True Image processing, matrixed speaker outputs (wired/wireless) etc etc....a Sound Center.......all controlled by the one remote!

(And with modern decoders for not just Dolby Atmos, but also for DTS-X and even Auro3D, please).

Not necessarily looking just like the Eclipse.

How it could be designed as for fitting with an LG tv, I’ll leave up to the good guys working for B&O - they usually come up with a nice solution!

And please also for the somewhat smaller tv sizes!

 

One fully fletched B&O controlled tv is not enough in the portfolio!!!

A soundbar (like the Stage) is a wonderfull offer (with or without BROne controlling) for those, who don’t need/want the full package....and something, that hopefully can bring cash to the company and to the dealers.

 

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Mikipidia replied on Tue, Oct 22 2019 11:44 AM
I mostly meant, would you buy the eclipse(v2)?

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Millemissen
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Mikipidia:
I mostly meant, would you buy the eclipse(v2)?

Alright!

When time comes and if that would be the only (full-fletched) alternative to the BV Harmony, yes!

MM

There is a tv - and there is a BV.

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