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BS Essence in an integrated setup with tv?

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Millemissen
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Millemissen posted on Wed, Nov 8 2017 10:59 PM

As you might know it is possible to use an Essence (2nd gen) - or a Core - as an integrated part of a NL-BeoVision - to let it share the speakers of the tv.

Would be nice to hear from someone, who uses this kind of setup on a daily basis.

How does the setup behave, when you start an Essence source via the app?

Does all sources act the same?

Does using Spotify Connect turn on the BV?

How about when you cast using ChromeCast to the Essence - or Airplay to it.

Or using bluetooth?

I suppose, that these sources also are visible in the source list (of e.g. a BV11) - (this is not the case, if the Essence is just connected to the tv).

Does the timer functions of the Essence turn on the tv, then?

When the Essence is integrated with a BV, can it still be connected to another (in another room)?

 

All these questions because I ‘only’ have personal experience with the Essence as a connected (to a BV in another room in my house) device.

A post from Mr Andersen in another thread about the behaviour of the Bang & Olufsen app used with an Essence/Core that is integrated with a BV triggered my curiousity.

Read here: http://forum.beoworld.org/forums/p/28341/223426.aspx#223426

In other words - will it be worth it to have a dedicated Essence/Core integrated with the BV?

Or is connecting an Essence (used in another room with its own speakers) to the BV just as good?

 

Pardon me for this/these sophisticated/somewhat nerdy question/s - but this is where the fun with the current B&O products begins ;-)

 

MM

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Millemissen
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This is how it looked on the (old) app

MM

 


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Just to be clear here.

If i have a BV11, 14, Avant or such and i add a core i get a TV that works exactly as my other Multiroom speakers until i press TV on my remote, then its a TV?
How do i integrate it? Is it a part of the core setup?

Besides the size, why should i choose the Core instead of a Essence MkII and vice versa?

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You might be interested in the digital line-in of the BS Core - the Essence ‘only’ offers an analog line-input port.

There might be other differences in the hardware - but whether you/we will notice that in daily life/listening or not, is questionable.

And then there is the thing with AirPlay 2 - we still don’t know anything there....which devices will support AirPlay 2?

MM

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I wont be ising the line in. Im only interested in the possibility to use BV11 speakers as a multiroom device without the screen turning on.

As i understand that is possible with this setup? :)

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The Essnce/Core would be a source (or rather more sources) of the BV11 and therefore the tv screen will always turn on, when you use this/these.

However - as with any source of the tv - you can configure how the screen behaves in the settings.

Personally I find it nice to see the track infos etc of what is played back.

MM

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Flere replied on Fri, Nov 24 2017 11:32 AM
Is it also possible to connect the BeoLab speakers to the Essence in stead of to the BeoVision and then configure these BeoLab speakers as speakers in the BeoVision?

So for Essence music I do not need the BV but for BV I can use the BL ?

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1990 replied on Mon, Jan 28 2019 9:18 PM

Millemissen:

The Essnce/Core would be a source (or rather more sources) of the BV11 and therefore the tv screen will always turn on, when you use this/these.

However - as with any source of the tv - you can configure how the screen behaves in the settings.

Personally I find it nice to see the track infos etc of what is played back.

MM

I’m sorry to dust of my this old topic; but I still can’t figure out the role of integration re: screen behaviour. If I configure the Emk2/Core as Integrated and select ‘Screen always off’ in my V1 for the sources coming from Emk2/Core, can I wake up to a timer from the Essence without the V1-screen turning on? Will the screen turn on when I change the radio station?

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I can’t tell for sure - my Essence is ‘connected to’ the tv’s (I am sorry, but I don’t want to change my setup).

However, I see no reason why an ‘integration’ should be different.

In my case playing from my Essence via the tv (= using the JOIN function), the screen turns on indicating what/which source is playing.

It then turns off approx 10 seconds later.

It is set to Time Out....because I prefer seeing what happens, when I start the playback. Tipping the remote (in my case the joystick) will display the metadata of what is playing - again just for a short time.

You can - if you please - set the screen behaviour to Never (or Always) on. This can even be set individually for each audio source.

I suppose, it will be similar, if you use the timer function/integrated setup.

Changing the radio station - when the screen is off - does not cause it to turn on.

You will only see the green light in the indicator at the top - which tells you that the tv is active.

Hope this helps.

MM

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I am playing with my new, yes I am stupid, Beosystem 4 with no 4K. I do not need dolby atmos, 7 speakers is more than enough as for the 4K I use OPPO, like more on the forum. Still experimenting.

I seriously do not see the the benifit of a dedicated core. I would spend my money on a Beoliving. It works fine, I am not happy with the integrated Deezer in the BS4 but I can play anything without turning anything else in the house. I use the Beolink 2 app. You can skip, play etc. It does not work exactly the same as the beolink app, which to me is a bit annoying when picking another playlist but then you can set a second source on the back and use the beolink app

Here it plays without the core in the kitchen on. So you will need to turn on the core in the kitchen on, secondly the bs4 in the living and then kill the kitchen again. With a macro still easy to programm. I am still experimenting as my new TV is in front of a glass panel running wires 7 meters away from a cabinet in the floor. This you want to test fully before running wires. I can always plug in a new core, I have even have a spare, but at this time I am pretty happy.
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chucky replied on Wed, Feb 20 2019 9:55 PM
I stand corrected. I have lost the connection with my Lutron. As soon as the beosystem 4 turns standby I am not to send any light commands. Looked at the energysaving settings, nothing. Wake up LAN ok. Always on is not really an option I think.

So I have a few options

Put in an ML active kit with the same IR eye, I think that is possible as long as you do not use double power. But it is another box in my cabinet.

I still have a Core but the old version, before the IR option. Question is if I set up the Core with integrated setup in my system 4 will it send light commands? There are already 2 drawbacks, the IR connected to the system 4 is dead, you cannot press it to turn volume up or down, it looks therefor well shabby and I cannot press it later on to β€œjoin”. However I have a good relation with my dealer so he can swapp it, however will this solve my light problem?

Option 3 get another lutron in which accepts light commands... very expensive and a lot of labour.

Maybe someone can give me some pointers if there is another way or how the old core behaves in an integrated setup.

Tx Chucky
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chucky replied on Fri, Feb 22 2019 7:25 PM
Made my point

Good bye.
Millemissen
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Wow - yet another suicide πŸ™„

MM

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chucky replied on Fri, Feb 22 2019 7:42 PM
Millemissen:

Wow - yet another suicide πŸ™„

MM

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Ditto
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Sandyb replied on Fri, Feb 22 2019 8:01 PM
Deep breath sir.

Your setup is more complex and involved than many on the forum have for themselves.

Speaking for myself, I didn't really understand the schematics of your setup exactly, so I have literally no way to help I'm afraid.

I'm sure someone with experience of this kind of setup will help at some stage, may just require a bit of patience.

Your initial post outlining your problem also barely made sense - so I'd hold off before calling people idiots.

Why is everyone in such a bad mood today? Did I miss something...

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With that sort of reaction I am not sure that I would have wanted to help - that is if I would have understood the question and would have been able to...

Have a good day.....with or without this forum.

@ Sandy

I am not in a bad mood today πŸ˜‰

MM

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