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athos replied on Wed, Feb 1 2017 10:39 AM

Chris,

 

Thnx for your reply. When I was on sw 1.8xxxx, the issue did not occured, so something must have changed. Although its not a big issue, it does mean that the lifespan of the JB will be shorter....

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athos:

You are right. I changed from Twonky to music on my Synology and start with adding maps of around 40gig max. The harvesting goes quick now and the processing tooks a couple of hours. The message in the right down corner disappeared and everthing is working ok now. Tonight I will add my top 1000 album collection (100 gig of mp3) to see if the Moment can cope with that.

Another question. I have the Moment connected to my Beoplay V1 (on which my speakers are connected). With the new SW I found that when I put on the TV, the display of the Moment also goes on and displays TV-TV.

Ofcourse it is right, but actually I don't want the display of the Moment to light up. Is this a standard?

Hi

May I ask please why do you have the moment plugged in to the V1 when the V1 can do all / most of the moments functions?   Are there other functions available?  Thanks in advance. 

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Roger replied on Wed, Feb 1 2017 8:40 PM

No new sw for the Moment this week - the announced sw update for week 5 covers BL35, Essence mk2 and the rest of the bunch.

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Chris replied on Thu, Feb 2 2017 7:46 AM

I can't use the Shuffle function on playlists and Albums anymore, a double click on the picture in the Jukebox is not functioning. Anyone tried it?

I could be that its not yet added in the Beta.

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athos replied on Thu, Feb 2 2017 8:42 AM

Michael,

 

I have the Moment connected to my V1, because mij speakers (BL3/BL2/BL20) are connected to the V1, so that I can use them also for watching movies (Dolby). 

 

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athos:

Michael,

I have the Moment connected to my V1, because mij speakers (BL3/BL2/BL20) are connected to the V1, so that I can use them also for watching movies (Dolby).

Ah. So it's integrated then.

So effectively you're using the moment with your exisiting speakers connections. So the V1 acts as a bridge ?
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athos replied on Thu, Feb 2 2017 9:56 AM

A sort of. I can use my speakers for both the TV and the Moment. 

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mbolo01 replied on Thu, Feb 2 2017 12:15 PM
Chris:

I can't use the Shuffle function on playlists and Albums anymore, a double click on the picture in the Jukebox is not functioning. Anyone tried it?

I could be that its not yet added in the Beta.

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I tried no longer than yesterday evening and this morning again, it works for me, I'll confirm this evening

Edit: I confirm it works with both albums and playlists

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Hiort replied on Thu, Feb 2 2017 1:49 PM

athos:

Michael,

 

I have the Moment connected to my V1, because mij speakers (BL3/BL2/BL20) are connected to the V1, so that I can use them also for watching movies (Dolby). 

 

I have similar setup but with Beovision 11, BL3s and BL11. So the Moment is integrated. 

 

 

 

 

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Carolpa replied on Fri, Feb 3 2017 5:10 PM

If another NL product is playing something, LINK appears on the Moment to eventually join that source.

What I miss is the opposite. You can't make another NL product join the Moment on the Sound Hub.

Or did I miss something

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Chris replied on Fri, Feb 3 2017 6:28 PM

Carolpa:

If another NL product is playing something, LINK appears on the Moment to eventually join that source.

What I miss is the opposite. You can't make another NL product join the Moment on the Sound Hub.

Or did I miss something

Hi Carolpa,

I do not understand your question.

You want another link product to join on the Moment. The link message appears on the Jukebox so pushing it and that Link source is playing on the Moment. Is that correctly?

You want the opposite, I understand that you want the Moment to play in Multiroom to, per example: a BS1 or BV or Essence....

If that other source is playing you can use the Join button on a remote or double tap on the BS1 and you are connected to the Moment....

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mbolo01 replied on Sat, Feb 4 2017 8:33 AM
Carolpa:

What I miss is the opposite. You can't make another NL product join the Moment on the Sound Hub.

Or did I miss something

Correct, you cannot perform this operation leveraging the Jukebox interface, you have to use BeoMusic app instead.

B&O is aware of our expectations on this front.

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Carolpa replied on Sat, Feb 4 2017 9:27 AM

Chris:

Carolpa:

If another NL product is playing something, LINK appears on the Moment to eventually join that source.

What I miss is the opposite. You can't make another NL product join the Moment on the Sound Hub.

Or did I miss something

Hi Carolpa,

I do not understand your question.

You want another link product to join on the Moment. The link message appears on the Jukebox so pushing it and that Link source is playing on the Moment. Is that correctly?

You want the opposite, I understand that you want the Moment to play in Multiroom to, per example: a BS1 or BV or Essence....

If that other source is playing you can use the Join button on a remote or double tap on the BS1 and you are connected to the Moment....

Hi Chris

I'm rather got used to switch on NL products before I go to other rooms with the "+" in the Beomusic app (also handy to switch off products). One can start to join every NL product in every room. This feature isn't available on the SH. 

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Carolpa replied on Sat, Feb 4 2017 3:11 PM

Notifications should also show the date when the issue did occur.

I've got a list of notification and it looks like it's all from today, but it isn't.

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Carolpa replied on Sat, Feb 4 2017 3:20 PM

How do I empty the play queue on the SH?

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Chris replied on Sat, Feb 4 2017 4:19 PM

Carolpa:

Notifications should also show the date when the issue did occur.

I've got a list of notification and it looks like it's all from today, but it isn't.

I don't see the relevance of adding a date, I would find it a lot more interesting in making it possible to send the logs file also to your own email address.

But I understand, most users are absolutely not interested in the deep technical inside of the Moment.

I'm perfectly happy now they already added some more information. All contributions, however small, are of use.

 

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Carolpa replied on Sat, Feb 4 2017 5:33 PM

Chris:
I don't see the relevance of adding a date, I would find it a lot more interesting in making it possible to send the logs file also to your own email address.
if a time is displayed one should also display the date. Other wise it is confusing or at least it doesn't give any additional information.

If things happening I want to find the relations between effects and causes. Than a date is as essential as a time (as normal in logging of events).

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mbolo01 replied on Sat, Feb 4 2017 6:48 PM

Carolpa:

How do I empty the play queue on the SH?

Through the BeoMusic app only to my knowledge

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mbolo01 replied on Sat, Feb 4 2017 6:52 PM

Carolpa:

Notifications should also show the date when the issue did occur.

I've got a list of notification and it looks like it's all from today, but it isn't.

Agree that some indication about the day the notification was generated would help to understand the context.

Did you notice that the time is GMT for those not being in the GMT timezone?

 

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MircoHH replied on Sat, Feb 4 2017 9:41 PM

Hi, 

does anybody know, if B&O will include the Deezer Flow function? I like it very much, but I can't use it with my moment. 

 

Mirco

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Carolpa replied on Sun, Feb 5 2017 10:16 AM

Carolpa:

Chris:
I don't see the relevance of adding a date, I would find it a lot more interesting in making it possible to send the logs file also to your own email address.
if a time is displayed one should also display the date. Other wise it is confusing or at least it doesn't give any additional information.

If things happening I want to find the relations between effects and causes. Than a date is as essential as a time (as normal in logging of events).

Can anybody explain why this reply had to be moderated?

thanks

 

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Carolpa replied on Sun, Feb 5 2017 10:19 AM

Can anybody explain why my answer, see above on Sat, Feb 4 2017 5:33 PM, had to be moderated?

I quoted the same post and it had to be moderated to.

 

thanks in advance

 

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Carolpa replied on Sun, Feb 5 2017 10:20 AM

All my remarks seem te be bound for moderation? it started with my reply on Sat, Feb 4 2017 5:33 PM

Can anybody explain what I doing wrong?

 

thanks in advance

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Carolpa replied on Sun, Feb 5 2017 10:29 AM

mbolo01:

Carolpa:
How do I empty the play queue on the SH?

Through the BeoMusic app only to my knowledge

Correct, this is the only way I know to do it. But how on the SH...........? that's the question!

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mbolo01 replied on Sun, Feb 5 2017 10:31 AM

MircoHH:

Hi, 

does anybody know, if B&O will include the Deezer Flow function? I like it very much, but I can't use it with my moment. 

Mirco

In my opinion, the MoodWheel feature is more or less comparable, by adding owned music tracks in the middle ring, it would even be closer.

That said, a quick win would be to add Google Cast support to the Moment

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Chris replied on Sun, Feb 5 2017 10:50 AM

Carolpa:

If things happening I want to find the relations between effects and causes. Than a date is as essential as a time (as normal in logging of events).

I'm pretty sure you will find all relevant information on the logs... If you could approach them!

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MircoHH replied on Sun, Feb 5 2017 3:43 PM

How do you add songs to the middle ring? I thought only the inner ring plays my songs. 

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Hiort replied on Sun, Feb 5 2017 6:30 PM
MircoHH:

How do you add songs to the middle ring? I thought only the inner ring plays my songs.

Inner ring include your collection and what you have liked in Deezer.

Middle ring are similar type of songs as you have in inner ring. You cannot add songs there.

 

 

 

 

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volvoxc replied on Mon, Feb 6 2017 4:32 PM

I have noticed after upgrading to 2.0.65 the search for updates does not work. Does anyone have the same problem?

Get the message Could not search for updates, server not available.

Also the Link function is not available on the Jukebox, but it works on the App. Anyone seeing that problem too?

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mbolo01 replied on Mon, Feb 6 2017 4:57 PM
volvoxc:

I have noticed after upgrading to 2.0.65 the search for updates does not work. Does anyone have the same problem?

Get the message Could not search for updates, server not available.

Also the Link function is not available on the Jukebox, but it works on the App. Anyone seeing that problem too?

It worked for me, maybe servers are temporarily unavailable?

Rel the link function, are you trying to join the Moment to another Multiroom enabled device or or do you want of have another Multiroom enabled device joining the Moment? Second option has never been available on the Moment, only through the App

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Kiran replied on Mon, Feb 6 2017 6:05 PM
MircoHH:

How do you add songs to the middle ring? I thought only the inner ring plays my songs.

I use mine as a dedicated iPod overkill.

Inner circle - NAS music

Middle circle - current hot music

Outer circle - world music

Top half - happy music (lively / refreshing)

Bottom half - sad music ( dark / low )

Right half - fast pace

Left half - slow pace

I have mastered the mood wheel. Works wonders.

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Roger replied on Thu, Feb 9 2017 5:13 PM

Breaking news!

The new Moment SW will be made available to dealers in week 7 and to customers in week 9. This is a complete re-write (as the beta testers know).

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Chris replied on Fri, Feb 10 2017 8:42 AM

New SW available now, version 2.0.66.

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Hiort replied on Fri, Feb 10 2017 1:58 PM

Chris:

New SW available now, version 2.0.66.

Great. Any major stuff included?

 

 

 

 

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Chris replied on Fri, Feb 10 2017 2:12 PM

Hiort:
Great. Any major stuff included?

Better battery life, Search capabilities bettered.

Rock hard running and harvesting! A thumbs up from me

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mbolo01 replied on Fri, Feb 10 2017 3:44 PM

Carolpa:
But how on the SH...........? that's the question!

@Carolpa: Out of curiosity, why would you clear the queue? On my side I used it only to circumvent an issue I have had with some BS Moment version where I could not properly stream music using the Twonky UI if the Moment queue was not empty first place.

 

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Carolpa replied on Fri, Feb 10 2017 4:37 PM

mbolo01:
@Carolpa: Out of curiosity, why would you clear the queue?
After some time the queue becomes a mash up of songs/albums/artists. I got used to clear the queue from time to time.

It can be done with the Beomusic app, but not with the SH. Now the sw and UI of the Moment is getting beter by the update the necessity to use other "toys" are getting less and less.

 

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I can confirm Roger's breaking news. Smile

Also, I'd like to give a big thanks to the BeoWorld members here that have been part of the beta program. Hjort, Carolpa, mbolo01, Chris, volvoxc, MircoHH, Norman. You guys have really made a difference. Together we have both managed to solve issues that are difficult to replicate inside the lab, and made lots of smaller improvements that make a difference for real music lovers, and also helped prioritised and come with great ideas for what we should be working on next. Thank you! This won't be the last time our team looks to you guys for help so we can make a better product and experience for everyone else. 

If other BeoWorld members would like to get beta access to the 2.0 software, please PM me, and I will let you know how to go about it. 

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Chris replied on Sun, Feb 12 2017 1:37 PM

Hi Lyle,

Thank you for your very kind words.

Glad to be of help, however minimal it was. And I'm sure Moment owners will be grateful to the tremendous work you and the team did in creating this new software.

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mbolo01 replied on Sun, Feb 12 2017 2:33 PM
Hej Lyle,

Thanks again for letting us joining this win-win program ! And happy to collaborate again if needed.

Moment is coming!

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