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Michael Posted: Thu, Sep 22 2016 11:30 AM

I thought a thread about all the new TV´s on Video Engine 3 (Android enabled) should have their own thread.

I read that the new sets will feature a Direct LED-panel instead of the current Edge lit panels (or local dimming on the 75/85" Avants). 

As far as I know Direct LED mean that the LEDs are placed on the back of the panel instead of by the sides. However, I am not sure about wether it features a local dimming feature or not. In most cases Direct lit implicate that all the lamps operate at the same zone - in that scenario it would be a global dimming that affects all the LEDs at once instead of individual zones. I am not sure which choice B&O has made. 

If they have local dimming and backlit on all the models, that would be a huge improvement. If they just changed edgelit local dimming to backlit global dimming then its a jump backwards in all steps but two - uniformity and maybe also higher brightness possibilities in bright room environments.  

The fact that Bang-olufsen.com only specifies local dimming on Beovision 11 and BeoVision Avant 2014 makes me believe that they in fact went with cheaper panels for the BV14/Horizon and possibly also the upcoming Avant NG.

Information from Bang-olufsen.com:
BeoVision 11 - SCREEN TYPE
3D via active shutter glasses, 200/240 Hz LCD panel with edge-type LED backlight and 1.5 D local dimming. Glare polarizer, combined with anti-reflection coating, significantly reduces reflections from incoming light. 

BeoVision Avant 2014 SCREEN TYPE
16:9 TFT LCD, glare surface
BACKLIGHT TYPE
55”: Two, edge-type LED 1.5D local backlight dimming
75”: Direct type LED with 2D local backlight dimming
85”: Direct type LED with 2D local backlight dimming

Horizon and BeoVision 14 - SCREEN TYPE (no BACKLIGHT TYPE info available)
16:9 TFT LCD, antiglare surface 

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I asked at the dealer and they said the 14 and the Horizon were edge lit.

I thought they said the whole range is edge lit. This means to me that the dimming is separate?
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More information on the new BV's in this training video:

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLRPmJ785xnMg4QKEL_S-Ia90t8mta8eXs

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Michael replied on Thu, Sep 22 2016 1:05 PM

Millemissen:

More information on the new BV's in this training video:

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLRPmJ785xnMg4QKEL_S-Ia90t8mta8eXs

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 I've seen that one and it says the same (17:33 minutes in): Direct lit and the beovisions is thicker than before. 

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Usually 'direct lit' does not include 'local dimming'.

Much more important than specs to me is, how the tv/tv's perform with the usual mix of sources in the home.

Waiting for more real-life reviews from Beoworlders ;-)

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Duels replied on Thu, Sep 22 2016 1:48 PM
I may be being dumb here but has a new avant 55 actually been announced and if so how does if differ from the existing one?
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Michael replied on Thu, Sep 22 2016 1:55 PM

Millemissen:

Usually 'direct lit' does not include 'local dimming'.

Much more important than specs to me is, how the tv/tv's perform with the usual mix of sources in the home.

Waiting for more real-life reviews from Beoworlders ;-)

MM

Exactly what I meant Millemissen :). If so then that sounds like a strange decision to me. And B&O is not writing anything about it themselves so buyers should be aware before they make a trade or buy one - in case picture quality is affected. Specs is important to how a tv performs :).

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Michael replied on Thu, Sep 22 2016 2:01 PM

Duels:
I may be being dumb here but has a new avant 55 actually been announced and if so how does if differ from the existing one?

It has not as far as I know, but it will come

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That is called the BV Avant/NG.

Also described in the video/Youtube link above.

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Michael replied on Thu, Sep 22 2016 3:41 PM

Millemissen:

That is called the BV Avant/NG.

Also described in the video/Youtube link above.

MM

That is also what I wrote Millemissen :) 

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Michael replied on Thu, Sep 22 2016 3:49 PM

Aussie Michael:
I asked at the dealer and they said the 14 and the Horizon were edge lit.

I thought they said the whole range is edge lit. This means to me that the dimming is separate?

I'm not so sure they are correctly informed unfortunately.

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Michael:

I'm not so sure they are correctly informed unfortunately.

Ok Smile
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Michael replied on Sun, Sep 25 2016 10:55 AM
Aussie Michael:

Ok

I find it odd that there is no information about it since it is an important part. Especially worrisome if retailers are misinforming their customers when buying such expensive things.
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beotex replied on Mon, Sep 26 2016 7:55 PM
Any chance we will see the Horizon or BV14 in larger sizes? Or is it only going to be the Avant for greater than 55"?
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IA64 replied on Mon, Sep 26 2016 8:11 PM

Do these TV support  802.11ac  Wifi ?  

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beotex:
Any chance we will see the Horizon or BV14 in larger sizes? Or is it only going to be the Avant for greater than 55"?

Can you imagine how big a BV14 in more than 55" would be?

I guess the Horizon will be kept in these sizes to stay a 'lower' prize tv.

Maybe - if it turns out to be very popular - a 55" would be possible.

But - really - noone can answer that question - not even the guys in Struer, I suppose.

Do remember that it won't be long before we will see the first B&O/LG tv's - they will (without doubt) be bigger than 55".

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Michael replied on Mon, Sep 26 2016 10:08 PM
IA64:

Do these TV support 802.11ac Wifi ?

Yes
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