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Hubbe posted on Wed, Jul 18 2012 4:25 PM

My mothers MX 7000 stopped working yesterday. She had it for almost 20 years. I think she bought it the year the MX 7000 came out. It has been repaired once many years ago. So one can say it´s been reliable all those years. I was thinking of repair it before it stopped working, but now I think she better buy a new tv.

Have looked at the V1. To bad it don´t have Masterlink, but it is not a deal break when it comes to my mother. I also looked at the Beovision 10, but I think its  not worth it´s price. It´s almost twice the price of a V1 and not that much better really.

I have also considered a second hand B&O tv. But I think a new V1 is a better buy.

A new good Samsung with quite nice design can be bought for almost 1/3 of a V1. It will not have so good sound, but the picture is great.

Any opinions?

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I bought a new V1 about a month ago and I love it - I say go for it! I guess it depends on how important master link is to you :)

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Not being funny but how's your mother's hearing? Is she an audiophile or does she just watch Eastenders? How much did she appreciate the audio of the MX7000?

Take her to Curry's and let her have a look (and listen) at / to  the competition before deciding on the right way forward.

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I noticed that you did not mention her use of devices like a DVD or VCR -- is that because she is a free-to-air person only, or does she have the bare minimum of an STB ?

And what B&O remote has she been using ? And has she been using other remotes with any of her accessories ?

You probably want to help make her life simpler - so I would like at the totality of her experience.

For example, could she take the set forward to an Apple TV or media server interface -- or would she say "Keep It Simple Son" Smile

PS it is a wonderful thought and a sign of great generosity !!

 

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Flappo replied on Wed, Jul 18 2012 6:49 PM

The new Sony tvs look nice. Certainly better than samdung and their garbage.

Id get her a nice new beovision 10 . The 32 inch version wise the floor with the v1 IMO.

She s your mum after all and you only have one ! :) spoil her !

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How about a newer 6. Great picture and sound, and a stand that doesn't look like it was made on "flight of the Phoenix" film set.

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Hubbe replied on Thu, Jul 19 2012 12:30 AM

Puncher:

Not being funny but how's your mother's hearing? Is she an audiophile or does she just watch Eastenders? How much did she appreciate the audio of the MX7000?

Take her to Curry's and let her have a look (and listen) at / to  the competition before deciding on the right way forward.

My mothers hearing is very good I believe. She is not an audiophile however, but I think she would apreaciate the better sound in the V1. Especially when tv-programs or films contains music. I told her that we could go and have a look at the competition, but she is not interested in visiting that kind of stores. She said that she knows what the tv´s looks like there. Between me and you, she has not a clue. But that is her way of saying that she does not want to run around stores. So tomorrow I will visit the B&O store with her so that she may have a look at the V1. Maybe I can get her to look at the competition but my hopes are not high.

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Paul W replied on Thu, Jul 19 2012 12:35 AM

Hi Hubbe!

I think the V1 will be superb for her!  Speaking from experience, once you've owned a B&O tv, it is very hard to feel happy with any other brand. The B&O tvs seem to do everything very nicely. They are certainly very classy!

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Hubbe replied on Thu, Jul 19 2012 1:00 AM

elephant:

I noticed that you did not mention her use of devices like a DVD or VCR -- is that because she is a free-to-air person only, or does she have the bare minimum of an STB ?

And what B&O remote has she been using ? And has she been using other remotes with any of her accessories ?

You probably want to help make her life simpler - so I would like at the totality of her experience.

For example, could she take the set forward to an Apple TV or media server interface -- or would she say "Keep It Simple Son" Smile

PS it is a wonderful thought and a sign of great generosity !!

 

One of the reasons I recommend her a B&O is that she is familiar with the brand. She use the Beolink 1000 remote for her MX 7000, but the Beo4 is not that much different if she does not use the sub menus under "list" button. She has a DVD that she does not use that often, it´s another brand. I was thinking that maybe I could teach her how to use an Apple TV or media server if it´s an easy interface in the V1 where I could download some of her favorite movies or artists. But I think she want to keep it simple. I will not put any pressure on her. I guess she will use a fraction of what a V1 or what the competition today offers. In that way her old MX 7000 would serve her well. But it´s and old tv and i don´t think its worth saving.  But i was ready to get the MX repaired if she would say so. After almost 20 years of service I think she deserves a new TV.

I have been thinking of a V1 for myself, but I want to connect my old Beosystem 7000 and Beolab speakers. To bad they don´t offer the possibility of Masterlink connection. I think they would sell even more V1 to older B&O customers that are not ready to buy the more expensive Beovisions or second hand ones. Are there any more information about the new Beovision or Beoplay tv coming out this fall. Will it be something between V1 and a BV10?

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Hubbe replied on Thu, Jul 19 2012 1:13 AM

Paul W:

Hi Hubbe!

I think the V1 will be superb for her!  Speaking from experience, once you've owned a B&O tv, it is very hard to feel happy with any other brand. The B&O tvs seem to do everything very nicely. They are certainly very classy!

I know exactly what you mean. I owed a MX 7000 once, and own an AV9000 today which i still think looks great after many years. It is obsolete in many ways today. But I just can´t retire it just yet. One nice thing about the B&O tv´s are the interface which are easy to use. The remote feels like it will last forever. And they have put in good speakers that makes many HiFi stereos sound bad in comparison. But one must recognize that the competition has come far since the flat screens arrived. Many of the more expensive Samsung looks quite good, but the remotes feels cheep, and so does the overall feeling if you take a closer look at the tv itself. But its 1/3 of the price of a V1 so one can understand that many old B&O customers has second opinions when looking at the prices on the Beovisions. The V1 is in the right direction however if just they could offer a ML possibility.

 

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elephant replied on Thu, Jul 19 2012 11:21 AM

Hubbe:
She use the Beolink 1000 remote for her MX 7000, but the Beo4 is not that much different if she does not use the sub menus under "list" button. She has a DVD that she does not use that often, it´s another brand.

OK that's partly why I asked - the old Beo4 is an easy transition; however the V1 Beo4 uses what I call the joystick rather than the (GO) button.  So I find the V1 remote a little annoying.

But the upside is having a PUC to control whichever DVD you have -- if chosen correctly & integrated I think the ease of use would lead to your mum exploring DVDs more Smile

Hubbe:
I was thinking that maybe I could teach her how to use an Apple TV or media server if it´s an easy interface in the V1 where I could download some of her favorite movies or artists.

I think the Apple TV interface can be easy to use.  Most B&O shops I have seen fail to connect it -- so showing the value of trailer browsing is difficult.

Hubbe:
But I think she want to keep it simple. I will not put any pressure on her.

Absolutely !

I once tried to be clever a choose a "simple" clock radio for my mother-in-law.

She could not use it and hated it.

So focus on ease of use for your mum !

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Hubbe replied on Thu, Jul 19 2012 2:32 PM

elephant:

OK that's partly why I asked - the old Beo4 is an easy transition; however the V1 Beo4 uses what I call the joystick rather than the (GO) button.  So I find the V1 remote a little annoying.

But the upside is having a PUC to control whichever DVD you have -- if chosen correctly & integrated I think the ease of use would lead to your mum exploring DVDs more Smile

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But the upside is having a PUC to control whichever DVD you have -- if chosen correctly & integrated I think the ease of use would lead to your mum exploring DVDs more Smile

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I think the Apple TV interface can be easy to use.  Most B&O shops I have seen fail to connect it -- so showing the value of trailer browsing is difficult.

I agree with your opinion of the joystick button on the V1 remote instead of the (GO) button. It feels a little aftermarket when compared to the original Beo4 remote, but overall I think its still a good remote. I bought her a Sony DVD player maybe two or three years ago. But I believe she finds it a bit difficult to operate with all kind of settings that must be chosen before a movie plays. Subtitles etc. And she is not familiar with the remote itself.

I was at our summer home a couple of weeks ago, and we installed a new antenna on the roof to be able to watch tv. We have and old tv and a digital decoder. I had to explain over and over again to my older relatives how to operate the tv and digital decoder. I guess we all reach that stage in our lives where we are not interested in taking in all that new technology that is presented to us.

The local B&O store had not connected the V1 to fully show what it can do. I think that is a mistake. But they are working on it. It would however be nice to se how it works, not just a trailer from an iPhone that happened to be in for repair when we was there this morning.

My mother liked the V1 from the very start. She even took time to look at the other products and said that she liked what she saw. I seen some comments about the look of the Beolab 5 on this forum where especially women think they are to big and ugly. Guess what - my mother liked them!

She choose a V1 40" in black with floor stand. She even said that she would regret if she bought another tv than the Bang Olufsen. I never got her to even look at the competition.

I had some problems with the pin code that the dealer forgot to give me, but it will probably be solved later during the day. I have to check that he gave me the right code with the serial nr. Will install the tv for her once that is fixed. She did not want a B&O technician to install it for her. They just mount the floor stand on the tv and delivered it to her address. I must say that the V1 look much better in home environment than in the shop. It looked bigger too than when we looked at it in the store. It´s design has grown on me I must say. I even like the floor stand which I bought looked a bit out of place in the shop. If it had ML I would buy one right away. I have seen here that some people buying the V1 even if it don´t have the ML and they have older B&O gears. Is there a way to get around the ML to integrate a V1 to a Beosystem 7000 with Beolab speakers in a simple user-friendly way?

To day I have the Beolab speakers connected to my AV9000 with Masterlink to my Beosystem 7000. If I would be able to connect the Beolab speakers to a V1 and get the sound from the Beosystem 7000 to the Beolab without getting a lot of button pushing. Which is one of the reasons many of us bought B&O gears from the beginning, there would not be so much to think about.

The dealer mentioned a way, but that meant that you must change the volume on the tv and stereo separately. I think they used a cable via AUX to one of their customers. He was happy, but I´am not so sure about that solution. Changing the sound on the tv and the beolab speakers separately would be missing the point of B&O I think.

 

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Hubbe:

She choose a V1 40" in black with floor stand. She even said that she would regret if she bought another tv than the Bang Olufsen. I never got her to even look at the competition.

I had some problems with the pin code that the dealer forgot to give me, but it will probably be solved later during the day. I have to check that he gave me the right code with the serial nr. Will install the tv for her once that is fixed. She did not want a B&O technician to install it for her. They just mount the floor stand on the tv and delivered it to her address. I must say that the V1 look much better in home environment than in the shop. It looked bigger too than when we looked at it in the store. It´s design has grown on me I must say. I even like the floor stand which I bought looked a bit out of place in the shop.

congratulations to your mum and of course you -- I am sure she will be very happy once the PIN code is resolved

Hubbe:

If it had ML I would buy one right away. I have seen here that some people buying the V1 even if it don´t have the ML and they have older B&O gears. Is there a way to get around the ML to integrate a V1 to a Beosystem 7000 with Beolab speakers in a simple user-friendly way?

To day I have the Beolab speakers connected to my AV9000 with Masterlink to my Beosystem 7000. If I would be able to connect the Beolab speakers to a V1 and get the sound from the Beosystem 7000 to the Beolab without getting a lot of button pushing. Which is one of the reasons many of us bought B&O gears from the beginning, there would not be so much to think about.

The dealer mentioned a way, but that meant that you must change the volume on the tv and stereo separately. I think they used a cable via AUX to one of their customers. He was happy, but I´am not so sure about that solution. Changing the sound on the tv and the beolab speakers separately would be missing the point of B&O I think.

I think you should ask these questions in a new thread -- but post your update about your mum and her happy adventures here 

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Paul W replied on Thu, Jul 19 2012 5:58 PM

Hubbe,

The AV9000 is beautiful, I remember as a child when this was introduced! I loved it!

Wow, well done. Your Mum has made a FANTASTIC choice. Im sure that she will get a lot of pleasure from this V1.  Very nice!

Just seen this advertised in GQ magazine!

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Hubbe replied on Thu, Jul 19 2012 10:36 PM

elephant:

congratulations to your mum and of course you -- I am sure she will be very happy once the PIN code is resolved

The problem was not the PIN code. The dealer delivered the wrong remote. The standard Beo4 instead of the Beo4 made for the V1. Thats why I could not get further in my installation process when I received the PIN from the dealer by phone. I must say that the installation itself was not that easy and logical as I expected. B&O should delivered better instructions with the V1 and more detailed information what different options do. Anyway, I made it just fine in the end with some trial and errors to learn the logic.

Now once the installation is complete I think there will be no problems to operate the V1 for my mother. When she is ready i might go further and installing a media server or just install her DVD. I decided to wait with that for the moment.

My mother is very happy that she bought the V1. She thinks it looks great in her home and so do I.

elephant:

I think you should ask these questions in a new thread -- but post your update about your mum and her happy adventures here 

You are right, I should ask these questions in a new thread. This one was for my mother. Might update it in the future if there are anything to report.

 

 

 

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