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Geurink posted on Mon, Dec 15 2014 5:18 PM

Hello,

I have a Beosound 9000 and a Beosound 5 in one room. Further i have sevaral Masterlink connections whit the 1751 amplifier. No TV

The beosound 5 works perfect but now we like to play CD in the Beosound 9000.

Can  anyone give me an advice how i have to configure this installation. Where do i have to connect the ML speakers.

I can config the Beosound 9000 as 1 2 or 0 but there is no reaction on the Beo 4.  In other rooms over the Masterlink it funtions.

 

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Hello!  Old thread revive because this information has been very useful for me (as well as one from the archives from 2010) and wanted to add info.  I have the same BS9000/BS5 setup in a single room (no TV) and I have experimented with this a little and wanted to add something for anyone looking.  My Beosound 9000 is MkIII with 3.3 software (does not have the 3.4 software for option 5-6).

Right now, I have connected these connected via Masterlink and speakers connected to Beosound 5.  I set the Beosound 5 as Audiomaster, Option 6.  The Beosound 9000 has infrared disabled on option 0, which is an audiomaster.  For a few days now, it has been working very well.  Beo4 remote behaves as below:

N.MUSIC -> Beosound 5/Beomaster 5 music library

N.RADIO -> Beosound 5 Internet radio library

A.MEM -> Beosound 5 Spotify

CD -> Beosound 5 CD ripper

LINK CD -> Beosound 9000 CDs (with CD 1 1 (CD/Track) on the BS5 display)

RADIO (or LINK RADIO) -> Beosound 9000 Tuner Presets (with RADIO 1 (or preset number) on the BS5 display

A.AUX -> Beosound 5 Behringer USB Dongle Aux input

Volume wheel/audio settings of course controlled by Beosound 5.

 

Downsides: No local control on the 9000 (cannot press a CD button and wake up the BS5 when walking by).  Right now, I have one room only but I will get a second room eventually and then this will not work because if you do Link N.MUSIC from another room, I believe the Beosound 9000 N.Music will come on instead of the BS5 (or maybe worse yet, both).  Also, the A.AUX on the 9000 is a bit better (less noise and more accurate) than the BS5 but it can't be selected - there is no LINK A.AUX that I can find.  But, hey, for those with one room, try this configuration, you may get everything you want.

I have the 3.42 software on the way for my BS9000, which will allow it to be put into option 5/6.  I may not install it, unless needed.  I guess I can switch the roles (option 0 on the BS5, option 6 on the BS9000).  The multiroom will work as the BS5 will serve out N.MUSIC and N.RADIO (and spotify with N.MUSIC-1 and A.AUX with N.MUSIC-2) is my understanding.  Then, I will revert audio controls and speakers connected to BS9000 and lose my BS5 volume wheel and only use remote.  It really like the wheel though :/

Can someone explain the magic that happens when a TV is installed?  I found a nice BV8-32 recently and was going to pick it up but it had no Masterlink so I didn't bother.  I guess I read BS5 as no audiomaster, BS9000 as A.OPT 0, and Beovision as V.OPT 2 (and speakers connected to the BV) results in the ability to use the volume wheel on the BS5 to control the TV, but it would seem that you probably can't serve out the N.MUSIC library from the Beosound 5 to the rest of the house as link rooms would try to get it from the BS9000.  I can't quite wrap my head around it without a TV to touch hands on.

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Roger replied on Tue, Dec 16 2014 12:14 PM

This was, and still is, a challenge as both the BS9k and BS5 would like to act as Audio Master. I believe the last sw version for the BS9k made it possible for it to act as a slave. If I remember correctly, this was only available for the mkIII - but I guess others on BeoWorld can pull this from the top of their heads?

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Untill someone 'pulls this from his/her head', please consult page 30 in the userguide of the BS5 (on the B&O homepage).

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Razlaw replied on Tue, Dec 16 2014 2:33 PM
I have a similar problem with a Beosound 3000. After much experimenting with option settings and talking to my dealer, I gave up and disconnected the 3000. My understanding is for my 3000 to work in the system with the Beosound 5 I need to have a chip in it updated. Beosound 3000 does not support option 5. Updated chip would enable it.

One of the problems with the scenarios in the user guide is that they require speakers connected directly to the Beosound 5 when the Beosound 9000 is also in the system. My system consists of a Beovision 7 and Beovision 10 in separate rooms, each with speakers connected to the Beovision. Thus none of the scenarios in the user guide match it, or will work. Nor would any other options I tried.

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in my BS3/BV9 set up, I have the BS 5 as not Audiomaster, leaving the BS9000 to accept that roll. I also just installed an Essence to the aux in on the BS9000. gives me Spotify connect. Easy breezy.
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Razlaw replied on Wed, Dec 17 2014 1:32 AM
What option do you have the 9000 set to?

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Razlaw:

What option do you have the 9000 set to?

option A0, VM2
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Thanks for all the reactions.

 

I did read the manual but the option with the BS 9000 and the BS 5 in the same room is not given there.

Now I find out that the BS 9000 don’t react on the Beo 4. Over the link it response but not direct.

Probably the IR receiver ore has anyone a suggestion.

 

Regards  Frans

 

 

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one of the previous updates for the BS5 allowed it to be not an audiomaster, and react to net music, net radio, and spotify . My BS 9000 is a M3, with the latest software installed. everything works as it should.
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Razlaw replied on Wed, Dec 17 2014 2:03 PM
Maybe I will get out my 3000 and try connecting it again. Perhaps the software update to the 5 you mention occurred after I disconnected the 3000. Maybe it work now.

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stefan replied on Wed, Dec 17 2014 2:04 PM

Geurink:

Thanks for all the reactions.

 

I did read the manual but the option with the BS 9000 and the BS 5 in the same room is not given there.

Now I find out that the BS 9000 don’t react on the Beo 4. Over the link it response but not direct.

Probably the IR receiver ore has anyone a suggestion.

 

Regards  Frans

 

 

With BS9000 and BS5 in a Masterlink setup you must set BS5 to no audiomaster and BS9000 to A.OPT 1 (or 2 if you want to control videocommands via BS9000.

Looks like you have no Powerlink speakers connected which will result in BS9000 reset to A.OPT 0 (No ir reception).

You have your speakers connected via Masterlink and ML passives, right?

In this case a Powerlink dummy plug will help. Just a 7 PIN  DIN plug with short circuit between pin 4 and 2.

Hope this helps

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Razlaw replied on Wed, Dec 17 2014 2:11 PM
So would I need the dummy PowerLink plug also?

My setup is BV 7-55 set as Video Master in Room 1.

Room 2 BV 10-40 set as Video Slave. (So I can use timer on BV 7-55, setting it as slave disables timer function and BV 10-40 has no timer. If I set both TVs as Video Master timer in BV 7 controls both. With 10 as Slave, it does not respond to timer functions)

Beosound 5 and 3000 in same room as 10-40.

Speakers connected to TVs.

No speakers connected directly to 3000 or 5.

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stefan replied on Wed, Dec 17 2014 3:00 PM

No, you don`t need a dummy plug, because your audiomaster - BS3000 - should be set to A.OPT 0.

Your setup is a bit strange, because you have a videolink and an audiomaster in the same room. Usually you have audio- and videomaster in the same (main) room. But - why not...?

You have two BVs connected so videomaster (BV7) should be set to V.OPT 2 and link BV (10) set v.OPT 6 (to control audiocommands via BVs as well).

BS3000 set to A.OPT 0 and BS5 set to NO AUDIOMASTER. Reset the wholes system and it should work (BS3000 software must be N.MUSIC compatible).

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Razlaw replied on Wed, Dec 17 2014 3:20 PM

Thanks! Only problem I have had with the strangeness of video link and audio master in same room, is if Beosound 5 is turned on directly at the Beosound 5 instead of with remote, music plays in the other room where the video master is.

I think my Beosound 3000 is N. Music capable. Prior to the BV10 and Beosound 5, I had just a pair of  speakers in the room. They were connected to a Beoport and and an Active Kit, connected to a Mac and and N. Music accessed music from the Mac. Does that indicate that my 3000 has the correct software?

How do I reset the whole system?

Thanks again!

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Razlaw replied on Wed, Dec 17 2014 3:38 PM

Sorry, to correct the last post, (edit function is not working) Before the BV10 and BS5, link room had active kit with speakers, main room had 3000 with TV. Both rooms connected by Masterlink to third room with a Mac and a Beoport connected to speakers in that room. I was able to access music on the Mac using N. Music. Does that mean my 3000 has the N. Music compatible software?

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