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Madmatt
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Madmatt posted on Sun, Jan 5 2014 4:59 PM

Hi all,

My sister has the full b&o 5000 system(she bought it new over 30 years ago and adores it) but recently

The Cd50 CD player has developed a fault. The cd tray opens on command(although sluggish-have checke the door screw and loosening makes no difference), putting a cd in the disc is picked up but does not spin at all. 

Now I've never looked inside a CD player before(fixed a few tv's etc though) and after looking on YouTube at one, I noticed the lens tray should move. This one does not at all, and is fully forward. The micro switch  that I guess senses when the lens is forward makes no clicking sound when pressed(I  manually raised the drive gear from the lens to move it back) so I suspect this micro switch?or maybe this motor(the worm drive one for the lens)

after a while the disc is ejected, and sometimes spins a bit on ejection making me think the motor is ok.

the whole system has never been serviced so a good lubing wouldn't hurt. Any pointers greatly appreciated!

my sister had booked it into b&o for repair- £85 before parts or additional labour! I said I may be able to fix(with the help of you guys! )

Am I right or should she pay them??😳

looking forward to your responses eagerly!

regards

Matt

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Madmatt:
Ok, great. Wht should be my first course of action?

Get rid of it and substitute a CD 5500, which will match perfectly.  Sorry for the flip answer, but in my experience the CD-50's are more trouble than they're worth - both for mechanical and electronic reasons.

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Leslie replied on Sun, Jan 19 2014 6:49 PM

Like Bob said, it's not worth it!

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You can't get a better endorsement than that!  Yes - thumbs up

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Nice one guys but it's not my call-it's my sisters and she loves it! I've no choice but to try and fix it!

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Leslie replied on Sun, Jan 19 2014 7:06 PM

If no success I can supply you one for quite cheap. Where you from (supply voltage)?

Good luck!

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chartz replied on Sun, Jan 19 2014 7:37 PM

MediaBobNY:

Madmatt:
Ok, great. Wht should be my first course of action?

Get rid of it and substitute a CD 5500, which will match perfectly.  Sorry for the flip answer, but in my experience the CD-50's are more trouble than they're worth - both for mechanical and electronic reasons.

I don't agree, the CD50 is one of my favourite players, with its mellow tone. Embarrassed

I have a BG 5500 too, as well as a CDX, plus Philips and Sony machines of that generation.

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chartz:

MediaBobNY:

Madmatt:
Ok, great. Wht should be my first course of action?

Get rid of it and substitute a CD 5500, which will match perfectly.  Sorry for the flip answer, but in my experience the CD-50's are more trouble than they're worth - both for mechanical and electronic reasons.

I don't agree, the CD50 is one of my favourite players, with its mellow tone. Embarrassed

I have a BG 5500 too, as well as a CDX, plus Philips and Sony machines of that generation.

Agree with Jacques, but if Madmatt is afraid of stripping down the CD50 (which he will have to, to some degree to change the belt) there is not much we can do to help him. I suggest that you buy a belt from Martin (Dillen on the forum), it comes with instructions about how to do it, but it require some mechanic talent.

 

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But both of you (for that matter, the 3 of you including Leslie) could take one apart and put it back together blindfolded.  My opinion is from a layman's perspective and meant for a fellow layman.  I've tried to fix them in the past (e.g. lubrication) and failed.  A drawer belt change on a 5500, on the other hand, is relatively simple.  But I do agree with you about the sound.

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Leslie replied on Sun, Jan 19 2014 8:35 PM

MediaBobNY:
including Leslie

No, I can't Bob, if no skills I will keep my hands off especially with this type of unit. Drawer belt from a 5500 is indeed quite an easy task to do.

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Dillen replied on Sun, Jan 19 2014 8:49 PM

In my opinion you won't find a better sounding CD player than the CD50.
The CD5500 comes no-where near with its sterile and ear-wearing sound.

Worth a new belt, a clean and a bit of lubrication after 30+ years ?
Definitely !
And I agree that it seem to be what's needed in this one.

The CD tray drives in.
The deck checks for the presence of a CD.

If no CD is sensed, the player goes into standby (it does not lift the CD hub).

If a CD is sensed;
The CD hub (with CD) is lifted.
The tracking motor is driven towards track zero.
The spindle motor is started.
The TOC is read in etc.

If something fails in this precedure the player will eject the disc.

Martin

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In other words, the 5500 sounds like a CD player.  The 'warmth' of a CD-50 is actually distortion.  Peter and others have mentoned this in the past.   There are two schools of thought on everything.

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Leslie replied on Sun, Jan 19 2014 8:59 PM

And I wonder if anyone is able to do the job. I for certain will not touch that thing!

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Madmatt: Get a belt from Martin, when its there, I will walk you through it, this in a weekend, because of the time difference, I know Jacques and Martin will follow if we run into trouble.

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Leslie:

And I wonder if anyone is able to do the job. I for certain will not touch that thing!

I'm convinced they're posessed.  It would require the talents of an exorcist.  Devil

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MediaBobNY:
I'm convinced they're posessed.  It would require the talents of an exorcist.

You may be right Bob, or the virus, but when you get to it, the mechanics in these players are simple.Yes - thumbs up

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