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expoman
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expoman posted on Sun, Aug 18 2013 2:45 PM

Forget the old thread.

Imagine you are the person that Tue Mantoni has asked for a list of older products to be eliminated to simplify the product range.

What you do suggest? 

This is just a game of speculation which is what this forum does all the time.

Make your list and include your reasons.

 

Of douse if we all had access to the actual product sales numbers this would be easy.Smile

 

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Steffen replied on Mon, Aug 19 2013 12:22 AM

rednik:

People keep saying in various threads tha B&O should retain the "iconic" products, beolab 8000/8002 etc.

 

this is a forum full of enthusiasts who like the older products and in reality bear no relation to the actual customer base.  The Bl800 design is old and not in anyway attractive to most customers in 2013, even on the wall brackets.

 

if they were still selling, they would still be making them.

 

Beoworld is in danger of becoming a Porsche 911 forum where a small number of people who are passionate about the history can't u dear stand why the company evolve the product range beyond something the minority of enthusiasts love, but which is not saleable in the modern world

-and if the newer products were selling well, B&O would not be in a crisis...Whistle

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symmes replied on Mon, Aug 19 2013 12:30 AM

B&O has big challenges, and please name me an A/V company that doesn't..  Loewe has a crisis, and I think their dance with the devil will be (sadly) a short one.

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For Me ! Bang & Olufsen should concentrate his energy to produce only innovative and quality speakers for Home and Cars ! Beo should stop with TVs, old Phones and BeoPlay's toys ! 

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Allthough I'm a vivid lover of the BL8000 design.. maybe it's time to let it go... It's been here since the early '90's.

Also to be adapted/upgraded : BV7.. It was a sculpture when it was released.. but now it's "fat" when you look at these rasor thin TV's from Samsung...

The BV4 85 and 103 were more of a statement; but utterly out of touch with regard to the current economic crisis... Maybe they can still be produced in a build to order scenario... 

BL 2, 3, 5, 9, 11 need to stay :-)

Anyway... Tue might be on the right track in regard to cleaning up the current product range... let's see what Struer has up its sleeves...

 

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Dude1 replied on Mon, Aug 19 2013 8:52 AM

There is much fun to come!

My lips are sealed...Whistle Although, with the right amount of Scotch - I could possibly let anything slip...

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"right amount of Scotch"?

How much are we talking? Smile

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If he is the wellknown "the dude", a lot of whisky probably !

4 beolab 5,  beolab 9, beolab 10, beolab 5000, beolab 8000 mk2, beolab 6002, beolab 3500, beovision 7 55 mk2,  beovision 11 46 mk4, beotime, beosound ouverture, beosound essence, beomaster 900 RG de luxe and the collection continues...

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vikinger replied on Tue, Aug 20 2013 10:56 AM

B&O got out of the phone business. Their mobile phones had been quirky but expensive, and certainly were not smart phones.

Now, looking at how the mobile phone market is moving on to higher quality capabilities, 13mp+ cameras etc maybe B&O should buy in some technologies or partner again with Samsung to produce a very high quality phone/ streaming device to which all of their Beolabs can connect. OK, it can be argued that they've already gone partly down this route with various docking devices for the iPad/ iPhone etc. Or maybe just a universal docking station that can accommodate any phone/ any connector.

.......... as I ponder this further it dawns on me that they just need to focus on the speakers........... with a universal dock...... Which would be a mini headphone jack..........

........ I already do something like this with my 40 year old Beomaster.......... Oh well.

What about a neat B&O module for DAB radio / N Radio that can input into all the earlier beomasters?

Graham

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Graham the viking wrote:

"What about a neat B&O module for DAB radio / N Radio that can input into all the earlier beomasters?"

You mean "the Playmaker and an iDevice"?
MM

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vikinger replied on Tue, Aug 20 2013 11:18 AM

Millemissen:

Graham the viking wrote:

"What about a neat B&O module for DAB radio / N Radio that can input into all the earlier beomasters?"

You mean "the Playmaker and an iDevice"?
MM

Oh, that will be it then!

Beolabs plus Playmaker.

TVs being dropped?

What's left???

Graham

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No, no, no...

 

You can't watch tv/videocontent on a Playmaker - can you?

Don't overreact!

I was just questioning the use of a BV-MediaPlayer in full screen mode for audiocontent.

Of cource we need the Mediabrowser (and the BV-screen) for our videocontent.

It is a nice mediabrowser imo. But I would prefer to chooce my music on a handheld device and just have to turn on the loudspeakers of the BV.

Maybe some day the MediaPlayer of the new BV's can act as a 'mediarenderer' - then there would be no need for the 'extra' Playmaker.

Shouldn't be a big problem for the guys in Struer - many mediaplayers (DMP's) can act as renderers (DMR's) nowadays.

With the BeoRemote (acting as a 'Digital Media Control Point') supporting searching  on the DLNA server we would have a complete B&O solution.

(Will that come?)

Then again - that does not solve the problem mentioned.

Of cource B&O should support ALAC as well, but that is more a question of DLNA standards.

There are some servers that are able to transcode ALAC to AIFF before sending the content to the MediaPlayer.

Otherweise - a conversion from ALAC to FLAC is relativ simple, and could be a temporary solution.

 

This has almost become 'offtopic' - sorry for that. I had no intention to hijack the thread Embarrassed

Greetings Millemissen

 

 

There is a tv - and there is a BV.

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vikinger replied on Tue, Aug 20 2013 12:14 PM

Don't over-react to my over-react!

Currently using an iPad which will not let me use appropriate smilies!

Maybe the majority of B&O owners are not here on Beoworld and have little interest in upgrading current or old ranges, but I often think that ICEpower amplifier modules would be a nice product for converting any passive speaker to active use.

Graham

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on the iPad, bottom left of the keyboard is the ?123 button, next to it is the Globe type icon next to it, touch it and see all the smilies 😝
Millemissen
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Has to be activated first! πŸ“² 

Maybe vikinger just did not find any 'appropriate' smilies there❕

MM

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maybe πŸ—Ό

maybe not πŸ”€
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