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expoman
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expoman posted on Sun, Aug 18 2013 2:45 PM

Forget the old thread.

Imagine you are the person that Tue Mantoni has asked for a list of older products to be eliminated to simplify the product range.

What you do suggest? 

This is just a game of speculation which is what this forum does all the time.

Make your list and include your reasons.

 

Of douse if we all had access to the actual product sales numbers this would be easy.Smile

 

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Hungedu
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I don't really wish to focus on the products to eliminate, rather the older ones that should remain or be upgraded...

Iconic products:

BeoLab 8002

BeoLab 6002

BeoLab 5

BeoLab 3

BeoVision 11

Products to be upgraded:

BeoSound 5 & Encore (Better expandability, airplay and no external black box)

BeoVision 7 (Thinner profile to match that of BeoVision 10 & 11)

 

BeoLab 5, BeoVision 7-55 MK2, BeoSound 5 Encore, BeoSound 9000, BeoLab Penta III, BeoLab 8000, BeoLab 6000, BeoLab 2, BeoLab 7-6, BeoSound 8, BeoTime (analog clock), Beo 4 remote.

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Jeff replied on Sun, Aug 18 2013 3:41 PM

Hungedu:

I don't really wish to focus on the products to eliminate, rather the older ones that should remain or be upgraded...

Iconic products:

BeoLab 8002

BeoLab 6002

BeoLab 5

BeoLab 3

BeoVision 11

Products to be upgraded:

BeoSound 5 & Encore (Better expandability, airplay and no external black box)

BeoVision 7 (Thinner profile to match that of BeoVision 10 & 11)

 

Yes - thumbs up

Jeff

I'm afraid I'm recovering from the BeoVirus. Sad

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They should bring back the iconic Jacob Jensen Beomasters, like the BM1200. This time around with Dab and N Radio, and either internal ICEpower amps for Beovox, or outputs for Beolabs. 

Graham

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koning replied on Sun, Aug 18 2013 4:30 PM

BeoVision 7 (Thinner profile to match that of BeoVision 10 & 11)

Thinner is not possible because of the dimming leds panel (thats what i been told)

Hungedu
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Not on the 7-40. It shares the same backlighting platform as BV 10 and 11.

BeoLab 5, BeoVision 7-55 MK2, BeoSound 5 Encore, BeoSound 9000, BeoLab Penta III, BeoLab 8000, BeoLab 6000, BeoLab 2, BeoLab 7-6, BeoSound 8, BeoTime (analog clock), Beo 4 remote.

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It has already been posted by Roger that a new TV to replace the BV7 should come next year.  However the sizes indicated seem to point to more of a replacement for the BV4 85 / 103 than the current 7 sizes?

 

B&O from the published reports is continues to bleed red ink.   The dealers in Europe are suffering large turnover declines from news reports.  Products must be eliminated to free up cash flow for all to survive.  There are many on this form who think they could run B&O better the the current team.  So how would you do it?

 

 

 

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If anything needs to go, it should be the BeoSound 4. It was never the icon like BS-9000 or the BS-2500 range. Since audio and video has merged with the personal computer, the focus of B&O should shift away from audio and video players to audio speakers and large screen video monitors (i.e. smart TV). I think that's the route Tue has already chosen to go.

BeoLab 5, BeoVision 7-55 MK2, BeoSound 5 Encore, BeoSound 9000, BeoLab Penta III, BeoLab 8000, BeoLab 6000, BeoLab 2, BeoLab 7-6, BeoSound 8, BeoTime (analog clock), Beo 4 remote.

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Hungedu:

If anything needs to go, it should be the BeoSound 4. It was never the icon like BS-9000 or the BS-2500 range. Since audio and video has merged with the personal computer, the focus of B&O should shift away from audio and video players to audio speakers and large screen video monitors (i.e. smart TV). I think that's the route Tue has already chosen to go.

BeoVision 7-55 3D, BeoSound 9000, BeoSound 8, BeoLab 7-6, BeoLab Penta III, BeoLab 8000, BeoLab 6000, BeoLab 2, LC-1, BeoTime (analog clock), Form 1 headphones, Beo 4 remote.

BeoSound 4 was officially terminated earlier this year :)
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Hungedu:

If anything needs to go, it should be the BeoSound 4. It was never the icon like BS-9000 or the BS-2500 range. Since audio and video has merged with the personal computer, the focus of B&O should shift away from audio and video players to audio speakers and large screen video monitors (i.e. smart TV). I think that's the route Tue has already chosen to go.

Audio and video is integrating with the Net and mobile devices. While there is not a good system for high quality easy integrating listening and viewing this content. So interact Besound5 with apps for playing content. Optical and harddrives drives are obsolete. Landlines as wel. And within the B&O range define a low, mid and high range devices.

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Low bandwith sucks!

MM

There is a tv - and there is a BV.

pacificocean
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Who is talking about low bandwith?

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rednik replied on Sun, Aug 18 2013 11:31 PM

People keep saying in various threads tha B&O should retain the "iconic" products, beolab 8000/8002 etc.

 

this is a forum full of enthusiasts who like the older products and in reality bear no relation to the actual customer base.  The Bl800 design is old and not in anyway attractive to most customers in 2013, even on the wall brackets.

 

if they were still selling, they would still be making them.

 

Beoworld is in danger of becoming a Porsche 911 forum where a small number of people who are passionate about the history can't u dear stand why the company evolve the product range beyond something the minority of enthusiasts love, but which is not saleable in the modern world

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Raeuber replied on Sun, Aug 18 2013 11:38 PM
rednik:

People keep saying in various threads tha B&O should retain the "iconic" products, beolab 8000/8002 etc.

this is a forum full of enthusiasts who like the older products and in reality bear no relation to the actual customer base. The Bl800 design is old and not in anyway attractive to most customers in 2013, even on the wall brackets.

if they were still selling, they would still be making them.

Beoworld is in danger of becoming a Porsche 911 forum where a small number of people who are passionate about the history can't u dear stand why the company evolve the product range beyond something the minority of enthusiasts love, but which is not saleable in the modern world

But take a look at the financial reports of Porsche and B&O! Not a bad decision to produce still the 911, isn't it? I would like to see the same with 8000/8002 etc.!
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Steffen replied on Mon, Aug 19 2013 12:12 AM

pacificocean:

Who is talking about low bandwith?

A lot of people still have to live with low bandwith...Angry

Sadly, not everybody yet has access to high speed internet connections...I can tell you that in Denmark (as in a lot of other countries) there are still a lot of 'dark spots' when it comes to cell phone coverage. Many can not even get optical cabled broadband -but have to live with ADSL connections...

Those damned cell phone companies are now bragging about their 4G -while they can not even offer a decent 3G coverage for all customers...Super Angry

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