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johnnielse posted on Wed, Aug 14 2013 9:35 AM

Bang & Olufsen has officially unveiled the new BeoVision 12-65 New Generation TV.

Prices in the link.

http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1376469110

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Martin replied on Wed, Aug 14 2013 3:53 PM

Hi,

The stand-alone price in Sweden of Bs4 is 33.000 SEK. With a GBP/SEK convertion of 10,10 today it would be about 3.300 GBP (approx.)

I must say that it is nice that the price has come down to half the price of Beosystem 3. BUT: the question is how much cheaper components B&O have chosen to build the BS4 when you compare it with BS3. Or another side of the question: what made the Bs3 so expensive?

Maybe someone have some answersSmile 

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Martin

 

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Raeuber:

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As already discussed I assume you will need a HDMI splitter and probably a software update to connect an external monitor (BV 12) AND a projector.

Greetings

Räuber

Hi Räuber,

Maybe the following Q's and A's helps understanding:

"Q. IN the autumn update, will the switch for 2 HDMI connections be hardware or software?

A. It will be a hardware HDMI switch.

Q. Will the switch be internal or external?

A. It will be an external switch.

Q. Why was the decision to have only 1 HDMI output taken (seems a backward step from BeoSystem 3)? 

A. We optimised BeoSystem 4 for BeoVision 12-65 or Home cinema to give an attractive price.  Our experience globally shows that most home cinema installations have a dedicated projector installed only.  For those who require both Projector and BeoVision 12 we will have the HDMI switch therefore keeping a better price for the majority of clients."

This last answer could be an answer to the post just above.

Greetings Millemissen

There is a tv - and there is a BV.

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moxxey replied on Wed, Aug 14 2013 4:38 PM

johnnielse:

Bang & Olufsen has officially unveiled the new BeoVision 12-65 New Generation TV.

Nice. Now this is something I really like. I nearly pulled the trigger on a BV12-65 at the end of 2012, when it was offered to me with quite a deep discount.

Does anyone have the UK RRP for the BV12-65NG plus wall bracket? My guess is £12,995, but wouldn't be surprised if it's priced 1:1 with the EUR!

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Raeuber replied on Wed, Aug 14 2013 10:03 PM
Millemissen:

Hi Räuber,

Maybe the following Q's and A's helps understanding:

" Q. IN the autumn update, will the switch for 2 HDMI connections be hardware or software?

A. It will be a hardware HDMI switch.

Q. Will the switch be internal or external?

A. It will be an external switch.

Q. Why was the decision to have only 1 HDMI output taken (seems a backward step from BeoSystem 3)?

A. We optimised BeoSystem 4 for BeoVision 12-65 or Home cinema to give an attractive price. Our experience globally shows that most home cinema installations have a dedicated projector installed only. For those who require both Projector and BeoVision 12 we will have the HDMI switch therefore keeping a better price for the majority of clients."

This last answer could be an answer to the post just above.

Greetings Millemissen

There is a tv - and there is a BV.

Thank you very much for these infos, Millemissen. Although I doubt a second HDMI output would be very expensive.

BTW: Because of the optional floorstand for BV 12 I think BV 7-55 is now very obsolete. It will be interesting to see how long it will take until a successor.

Greetings

Räuber
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expoman replied on Wed, Aug 14 2013 10:45 PM

The 103" plasma on the floor stand with the beosystem 3 is also obsolete if it hasn't been already deleted now.

 

I would think the old cables out the front of the beosystem 3 with the black cover was mostly David Lewis driven for the Beovision 9.  

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MartinW replied on Wed, Aug 14 2013 10:48 PM
Raeuber:

BTW: Because of the optional floorstand for BV 12 I think BV 7-55 is now very obsolete. It will be interesting to see how long it will take until a successor.

Greetings

Räuber

I think the BV12-65 is a much bigger screen size than the BV7-55 and for that reason I wouldn't think that it would make it obsolete - of course time will tell and the 65" could well prove me wrong!

However...

BV7 in all sizes is no longer in production, the only stock available now is what is held by dealers - no more is being produced by the factory.
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expoman replied on Wed, Aug 14 2013 10:48 PM

Sounds like there will be some Beosystem 3's on ebay very soon.Smile

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Millemissen:

Hi Räuber,

there is only one HDMI out.

You either use this for a BV127BV4 or a non B&O display - or for the projector.

Hi Millemissen,

simple (probably silly) question: Can I connect HDMI out with BV7, so I would have a BV7 NG??

/Räuber
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Hi Räuber,

I don't see why you couldn't ---- if you can find the HDMI-in of the BV7 display Surprise

Greetings MM

There is a tv - and there is a BV.

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Millemissen:

Hi Räuber,

I don't see why you couldn't ---- if you can find the HDMI-in of the BV7 display

Greetings MM

There is a tv - and there is a BV.

That means you can't use a "normal" HDMI connection?
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Please clarify your question?

You want to use the BV7 as 'monitor only'???

Since MK3  this has been driven by the BSys3 - probably through an internal DVI connection (or later a HDMI).

If you swap the BSys3 with the BSys4 (that of corce must be placed outside), it must work - I don't see why not?

That is, if you can reach this DVI/HDMI connection.

One problem might be: how to turn off and on the screen - but if is possible with the 3 why not with the 4.

You would not have the statusinfo on the right side of the screen, and you would have to have an external ir-eye.

I am sure it will need 'some efford' to make this possible - the more technical skilled users with knowledge of the 'insides' of the BV7 probably can give more/better information than I can.

But...why? 

Is it really that worth it?

If you already have the BV7 and can do it yourself, it might be. 

Then again - it might even be something for a skilled 2. hand seller to 'produce' some BV7/BSys4 tv's for the 'old school design lovers' who wants to pay for 'their love' Big Smile

N.B. The BSys4 will also be sold as a replacement for the BSys3 with the BV4!

Greetings Millemissen

There is a tv - and there is a BV.

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Raeuber:

That means you can't use a "normal" HDMI connection?

Or did you mean, that you could just 'pop it in' to one of the HDMI's of the BV7, and use it as a source???

You could - but how would you then control two systems at one time CryingConfused

MM

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Raeuber replied on Thu, Aug 15 2013 10:01 AM
In my opinion the critical question of success of Beosystem 4 will be whether it can provide a 4K panel with 4K signals. Especially if this is true:

Roger:

Agree with Millemissen - the BV12 will exist along with the future BV7 replacement, the one with the speaker that slides out from under the telly and then extends to both sides (but still not as wide as the tv). The 3 versions of could be launched in April, May and June 2014 (the two larger versions will be 75" and 85").

Roger

Nowadays 75" and 85" panels will need 4K technology! (Take a look at the new Samsungs: http://www.samsung.com/de/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/uhd-tv)

And I think the future BV7 replacement (BV14??) will have an inbuilt BS4 (like BV11).

But I can't find any infos in specs of BS4 about 4K!?

Regards

Räuber
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You can't find any, because there aren't any!

You also can not find any info on the used HDMI version!

MM

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Raeuber replied on Thu, Aug 15 2013 10:20 AM
Millemissen:

Or did you mean, that you could just 'pop it in' to one of the HDMI's of the BV7, and use it as a source???

You could - but how would you then control two systems at one time

MM

There is a tv - and there is a BV.

Yes, this is what I mean.

Of course it's not a practical but a theoretical question. It could be useful to compare the engine quality of BS4 and BS3 with a BV7.

And there is another reason why I want to discuss this question: Last year I asked my dealer if it would be possible to connect my BV7 with my BV10 (link TV) by using a long HDMI cable and HDMI OUT connection of BV7/HDMI IN connection of BV10 and use BV7 as a source of BV10. This could realize distribution of HD video without HDMI Matrix. But my dealer told me that this wouldn't work, but I didn't checked it out. Of course PUC control of BV7 via BV10 is another question.

Greetings

Räuber
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