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Piaf posted on Wed, Mar 21 2012 3:37 AM

I recently acquired a pair of S-75 and S-45 speakers in very presentable condition, with the lone exception being the veneer is horribly dry.

 

I tried a good quality lemon oil and the veneer soaked it up like a dry sponge. I repeated this three times during the first session; however come morning the veneer was once again dry as a bone.

 

I repeated the multiple treatments FOUR times with little change; the veneer looks very good but dry.

 

I am afraid to continue this fearing the veneer will lift.

 

Any suggestions?

 

Jeff  

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Clean with rag moistened with iso alcohol, soak with Boiled linseed oil (Danish oil), leave for 1/2 to 1 hour, wipe of excess, leave for 24 hours, sand lightly with 400 grain sand paper, clean of dust, soak again, leave for 1/2 hour, wipe of excess, leave for 24 hours, polish with clean rag.

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Pics ??

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Peter replied on Wed, Mar 21 2012 7:11 AM

Agree - I use Danish Oil on my M100s. Lots of beeswax might help if prefer that route. Pictures please! Smile

Peter

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I have attempted to add the requested photos.


Beogram 4000, Beogram 4002, Beogram 4004, Beogram 8000, Beogram 8002, Beogram 1602. Beogram 4500 CD player, B&O CDX player, Beocord 4500, Beocord 5000 T4716, Beocord 5000 T4716, Beocord 5000 T4716, Beocord 8004, Beocord 9000, Beomaster 1000, Beomaster 1600, Beomaster 2400.2, Beomaster 2400.2, Beomaster 4400, Beomaster 4500, Beolab 5000, Beomaster 5000, BeoCenter 9000. BeoSound Century,  S-45.2, S-45.2, S-75, S-75, M-75, M-100, MC 120.2 speakers; B&O Illuminated Sign (with crown & red logo). B&O grey & black Illuminated Sign, B&O black Plexiglas dealer sign, B&O ash tray, B&O (Orrefors) dealer award vase,  B&O Beotime Clock. Navy blue B&O baseball cap, B&O T-shirt X2, B&O black ball point pen, B&O Retail Management Binder

 

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Peter replied on Sat, Mar 31 2012 8:36 AM

They look beautiful!

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Ooh la la - they look terrific. Well done piaf.

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Piaf:

I have attempted to add the requested photos.

What did you do against the "dryness"

 

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Piaf replied on Sun, Apr 1 2012 4:48 AM

I can’t speak for how these speakers were treated previously, but I have a humidifier in place and I used a good deal of lemon oil on them with surprisingly little affect.

 

Jeff

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Step1 replied on Sun, Apr 1 2012 11:58 PM

They look rather scrumptious nice find :)

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Piaf replied on Mon, Apr 2 2012 5:15 AM

Why thank you.

The S-75's are not flawless, but very close especially when considering that they were dropped off at a re-cycle center.

 

Jeff

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Piaf replied on Wed, Apr 4 2012 5:02 AM

I had a long developed misconception concerning wood veneers in that they needed oiling to keep them from drying out.

 

I weekend trip to a wood specialty shop showed me the error in my thinking. Wood dries out alright, but only in very dry climates and when exposed to excessive sunlight.

 

The suggestions made in this forum to use Danish oil were not made to rejuvenate the veneer but rather to refinish it.

 

These speakers would benefit from refinishing, but they are probably not really in need of refinishing at this point.

 

Using Old English Lemon Oil doesn’t benefit the veneers but rather “dresses” them so that they look new. The petroleum based oil also cleans the wood improving the appearance, but as the oil evaporates the shinny benefit disappears encouraging more use of the product.

 

The wood specialty shop recommend that I vigorously scrub the veneers with soap and water to really clean them and the end result was slightly better than the lemon oiled results.

 

I thought I should pass this “wisdom” along for anyone in a similar situation to mine. Huh?

 

Jeff

Beogram 4000, Beogram 4002, Beogram 4004, Beogram 8000, Beogram 8002, Beogram 1602. Beogram 4500 CD player, B&O CDX player, Beocord 4500, Beocord 5000 T4716, Beocord 5000 T4716, Beocord 5000 T4716, Beocord 8004, Beocord 9000, Beomaster 1000, Beomaster 1600, Beomaster 2400.2, Beomaster 2400.2, Beomaster 4400, Beomaster 4500, Beolab 5000, Beomaster 5000, BeoCenter 9000. BeoSound Century,  S-45.2, S-45.2, S-75, S-75, M-75, M-100, MC 120.2 speakers; B&O Illuminated Sign (with crown & red logo). B&O grey & black Illuminated Sign, B&O black Plexiglas dealer sign, B&O ash tray, B&O (Orrefors) dealer award vase,  B&O Beotime Clock. Navy blue B&O baseball cap, B&O T-shirt X2, B&O black ball point pen, B&O Retail Management Binder

 

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Piaf:

I had a long developed misconception concerning wood veneers in that they needed oiling to keep them from drying out.

 

I weekend trip to a wood specialty shop showed me the error in my thinking. Wood dries out alright, but only in very dry climates and when exposed to excessive sunlight.

 

The suggestions made in this forum to use Danish oil were not made to rejuvenate the veneer but rather to refinish it.

 

These speakers would benefit from refinishing, but they are probably not really in need of refinishing at this point.

 

Using Old English Lemon Oil doesn’t benefit the veneers but rather “dresses” them so that they look new. The petroleum based oil also cleans the wood improving the appearance, but as the oil evaporates the shinny benefit disappears encouraging more use of the product.

 

The wood specialty shop recommend that I vigorously scrub the veneers with soap and water to really clean them and the end result was slightly better than the lemon oiled results.

 

I thought I should pass this “wisdom” along for anyone in a similar situation to mine. Huh?

 

Jeff

Old English for dark and light veneer is good to hide scratches and repairs, but Boiled Linseed oil moisture the wood, then hardens and protects the wood, if you try with linseed oil you will see, after the first sanding, how it soaks into the wood and after wiping of excess and waiting 24 hours you will see (feel) the harder surface, a second layer will perfect this and after polishing, you'r good for at least one year. Old English is not the same as Boiled linseed oil.

 

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