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Upgrading Masterlink system with Beolab 28 and multiroom solution

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MartinRK posted on Tue, Jan 11 2022 5:25 PM

 

I’m in the lucky situation that my wife actually likes the Beolab 28’s and think it is a nice solution to have the sources build into the speakers, and that they sound absolutely great.

We have a Essence MK I, which is crap and will be ditched very soon. With this “BL 28 window” open, I have started to re-think my whole setup, because I’m still in the master link world (and a little bit MCL), and I’m not ready to change all my B&O.

Investing in BL28’s, a NL/ML converter and some Core’s will actually give me a very functional multiroom solution using much of the equipment I already have, but I need a few advice's and a opinion if it will work as I expect.

You can see my current setup in the first drawing here. (next post will show my planned setup and my questions)

 

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Millemissen:
No NL/ML Converter needed for time being - once you will have to replace the tv in the living room, you might need one.
Need..... okay not, but is one ones to listen to the BC9500 would make the access and compatibility easier. 

Razlaw:
Also, you mention DLNA to the Core. I believe you can connect the 28s directly to DLNA.
Correct

MartinRK:
If I start a radio station on the BL28’s, can I join that from the Core’s and the A6, or do I have to start the radio station again from a Core in TuneIn as well – and will there be a sync problem here?
Yes you can JOIN the other NL products to the BL28 without a sync issue.

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Carolpa:

Millemissen:
No NL/ML Converter needed for time being - once you will have to replace the tv in the living room, you might need one.
Need..... okay not, but is one ones to listen to the BC9500 would make the access and compatibility easier. 

The access and control will work from all rooms, incl the BeoGram, if I go for the converter - can you confirm that?

Razlaw:
Also, you mention DLNA to the Core. I believe you can connect the 28s directly to DLNA.
Correct

MartinRK:
If I start a radio station on the BL28’s, can I join that from the Core’s and the A6, or do I have to start the radio station again from a Core in TuneIn as well – and will there be a sync problem here?
Yes you can JOIN the other NL products to the BL28 without a sync issue.

so if I play a radio station from a Core from TuneIn, I can join that from the BL 28 even though BL28 has B&O Radio and not TuneIn ?

And also the other way around (B&O Radio from BL 28 to a Core and/or Beoplay A6 ?)

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Razlaw replied on Wed, Jan 12 2022 9:55 PM
MartinRK:

so if I play a radio station from a Core from TuneIn, I can join that from the BL 28 even though BL28 has B&O Radio and not TuneIn ?

And also the other way around (B&O Radio from BL 28 to a Core and/or Beoplay A6 ?)

Yes, both will work. Also, here is a picture of DLNA on the 28s displaying on the Halo.

Beolab 28s Beolab 9s Beolab 12-3s Beolab 1s Beolab 6000s 2 pairs Beolab 4000s Beovision 7-55 Beovision 10-40 Beoplay V1 32 inch Beovision Avant 32 inch Beosound 1 (CD player) Beosound 3000 Beosound 5 Core Essence MKII Beoplay M5

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MartinRK replied on Wed, Jan 12 2022 10:05 PM
Great - thanks for showing this

Do you also control the BV without any problems with the Halo ?
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Razlaw replied on Wed, Jan 12 2022 11:23 PM
I can not control the BV7 or my BV10 with the Halo. I do have the ability to turn on audio sources and have them play through the speakers connected to the BV10 using the Halo. There is no volume control. I asked in another thread about this as I do not completely understand the converters and this control of audio sources just appeared after the last Halo software update. I can control my V1with the Halo.

Beolab 28s Beolab 9s Beolab 12-3s Beolab 1s Beolab 6000s 2 pairs Beolab 4000s Beovision 7-55 Beovision 10-40 Beoplay V1 32 inch Beovision Avant 32 inch Beosound 1 (CD player) Beosound 3000 Beosound 5 Core Essence MKII Beoplay M5

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MartinRK:
so if I play a radio station from a Core from TuneIn, I can join that from the BL 28 even though BL28 has B&O Radio and not TuneIn ?

And also the other way around (B&O Radio from BL 28 to a Core and/or Beoplay A6 ?)

Right

 

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PhilLondon:

One first remark...

I read the Beolink Passive (as speakers), the Beolab 3000 and 4500 have issues working with the Core. I have the Beolab 3000 and the Core and NL/ML Converter (used as a Beolink active) don't turn the speaker on. It is documented in a thread somewhere on the forum.

Also, I’m not sure if they still do the Core with IR. You might want to use a Essence MK II instead. But it may have the same problem with the BeoLink passive. Beoworld app with direct photo upload and emoticons. Other apps: Conslt , The Story Mouse .

Yes, the passive will drive passive build-in speakers in the rooms.

In the wine cellar they are build into wooden wine boxes placed on the shelves with the cables to the passive hidden inside the shelves - can’t change that setup Big Smile

I read in another thread that Steve from Sounds Heavenly can custom build these cables, so I hope it will be doable. If IR eyes are not sold by B&O anymore, I have to find them on the secondhand market.
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MartinRK:
If IR eyes are not sold by B&O anymore, I have to find them on the secondhand market.

The Core does not have a connection for the IR. Only some early model had it. The essence MKII has this connection.

You'll need a Bluetooth remote, such as the Beoremote One BT, the essence remote...

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MartinRK replied on Fri, Jan 14 2022 12:03 PM

isn't it the other way around, so the early models didn't have the IR connection?

This thread tells about the difference between Core mk1 and mk2, that has the IR connection (mk2, type no 3051)

Beosound Core Mk1 and Mk2 Differences? - (beoworld.org)

 

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MartinRK:

isn't it the other way around, so the early models didn't have the IR connection?

This thread tells about the difference between Core mk1 and mk2, that has the IR connection (mk2, type no 3051)

Beosound Core Mk1 and Mk2 Differences? - (beoworld.org)

 

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There is a tv - and there is a BV.

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Oops, sorry!

Well, that's a good surprise then, I own one of the new one and had no idea. But then where do you connect it??

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From what I can see, it is in the DPL socket
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MartinRK replied on Sat, Jan 15 2022 11:31 AM

Just bought a almost unused NL/ML Converter for 2.800 Dkr (375€), so I can try to play around with my setup

For now I will just try to unplug the BC9500/BG9500 from the ML system, connect it to the converter and see how it turns up in the B&O app.

Since I have Beoplay A6 as the only multiroom device for now, I will try to play the BC/BG through this as a start.

Can't really figure out if I will get any challenges with the BG9500 as N-Radio source together with TuneIn on the A6.

Is TuneIn/B&O Radio considered as N-Radio source in a multiroom setup with Cores and BL28, or is the Phono/N-Radio command conflict a leftover from the good old Masterlink and Beo4 days ?

and I also have to figure out if I can rename the N-Radio to Phono (or BG9500), so I will see that name in the app...

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I have installed the NL/ML Converter with the Beocenter 9500/Beogram 9500, and it works perfect controlling all sources through the app Smile

Many of my questions are now answered Smile

I have renamed the converter and added it as a primarily product to the Beoplay A6 in the Beolink settings in the app, and I can see and control the BC sources together with the A6 sources - just great

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MartinRK:
I have installed the NL/ML Converter with the Beocenter 9500/Beogram 9500, and it works perfect controlling all sources through the app Smile

Many of my questions are now answered Smile

I have renamed the converter and added it as a primarily product to the Beoplay A6 in the Beolink settings in the app, and I can see and control the BC sources together with the A6 sources - just great

Nice work!

If a Beocenter 9500 source is playing on the A6 and you want to extent this source to other products it is possible the A6 in the app says it can't be extended. Then choose the Beocenter 9500 BLC in the app and extent the playing source from here to other products. 

 

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