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Qobuz launched in 6 new countries incl the Nordics

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VANTAGE posted on Thu, Apr 15 2021 12:51 PM

To whom this may concern: Qobuz is now officially available in Australia, New Zealand, Denmark, Finland, Norway and Sweden.

In Denmark, the monthly streaming plan (up to FLAC 192 KHz) is DKK 149,99 per month, cheaper if you go for a full year.

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Answered (Verified) oli replied on Fri, Apr 16 2021 12:45 PM
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With Bluetooth in the chain, you are not getting more than CD quality, at best, if ever you are using AptX codec. The Moment doesn't support AptX, so the output is running at mp3 level quality. 

You should invest in a good DAC, and feed your Moment via RCA, result will be much better, currently you are loading your internet bandwidth and paying HiRes sub to Qobuz for nothing.

Mac (with Audirvana) to DAC (via USB) to Moment (via RCA)

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Answered (Verified) Sandyb replied on Fri, Apr 16 2021 1:07 PM
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oli:

With Bluetooth in the chain, you are not getting more than CD quality, at best, if ever you are using AptX codec. The Moment doesn't support AptX, so the output is running at mp3 level quality.

You should invest in a good DAC, and feed your Moment via RCA, result will be much better, currently you are loading your internet bandwidth and paying HiRes sub to Qobuz for nothing.

Mac (with Audirvana) to DAC (via USB) to Moment (via RCA)

Completely agreed (and correct)
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oli:

 

With Bluetooth in the chain, you are not getting more than CD quality, at best, if ever you are using AptX codec. The Moment doesn't support AptX, so the output is running at mp3 level quality.

 

You should invest in a good DAC, and feed your Moment via RCA, result will be much better, currently you are loading your internet bandwidth and paying HiRes sub to Qobuz for nothing.

 

Mac (with Audirvana) to DAC (via USB) to Moment (via RCA)

 

a working solution

But the additional dac is not necessary

See next post how to

 

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Wow! Any idea how to get this working with B&O products? Do they need google cast to work?

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Sandyb replied on Thu, Apr 15 2021 3:01 PM

Airplay or CC, from the Qobuz apps.

 

Robert_A:

Wow! Any idea how to get this working with B&O products? Do they need google cast to work?

 

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Sandyb:
Airplay or CC, from the Qobuz apps.

Robert_A:
Wow! Any idea how to get this working with B&O products? Do they need google cast to work?
Or use Audirvana to access Qobuz and UPnP/DLNA stream to B&o. Benifits: formats/resolution presented by Qobuz reproduced, use of B&o own multiroom.

Note: Qobuz is working to intergrate direct UPnP stream from their app also. But this is in beta and doesn't work (well) with B&o.

 

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Thank you for your answers! I will try the easiest way first. Bluetooth from my mac over to my Beosound Moment. It sounds really good, and the qobuz says the output is 24/44 - so maybe it is? Not sure what happens to the signal when it leaves the mac:)

 

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Answered (Verified) oli replied on Fri, Apr 16 2021 12:45 PM
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With Bluetooth in the chain, you are not getting more than CD quality, at best, if ever you are using AptX codec. The Moment doesn't support AptX, so the output is running at mp3 level quality. 

You should invest in a good DAC, and feed your Moment via RCA, result will be much better, currently you are loading your internet bandwidth and paying HiRes sub to Qobuz for nothing.

Mac (with Audirvana) to DAC (via USB) to Moment (via RCA)

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Answered (Verified) Sandyb replied on Fri, Apr 16 2021 1:07 PM
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oli:

With Bluetooth in the chain, you are not getting more than CD quality, at best, if ever you are using AptX codec. The Moment doesn't support AptX, so the output is running at mp3 level quality.

You should invest in a good DAC, and feed your Moment via RCA, result will be much better, currently you are loading your internet bandwidth and paying HiRes sub to Qobuz for nothing.

Mac (with Audirvana) to DAC (via USB) to Moment (via RCA)

Completely agreed (and correct)
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Thank you oli!

This is just the info i need to get the best out of my BL18/Moment setup.

 

Have a nice weekend!

 

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oli:

 

With Bluetooth in the chain, you are not getting more than CD quality, at best, if ever you are using AptX codec. The Moment doesn't support AptX, so the output is running at mp3 level quality.

 

You should invest in a good DAC, and feed your Moment via RCA, result will be much better, currently you are loading your internet bandwidth and paying HiRes sub to Qobuz for nothing.

 

Mac (with Audirvana) to DAC (via USB) to Moment (via RCA)

 

a working solution

But the additional dac is not necessary

See next post how to

 

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@Carpola - How can I solve this without a additional dac?

 

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Robert_A:
@Carpola - How can I solve this without a additional dac?
For the Moment you do NOT need the proposed connection with a DAC. I just double checked it.

The same if you have a BS35, A6, M3, M5, Essence mkII, Harmony or Core (Shape)

Start Audirvana, select the speaker with "wifi" (on the right, below), set the DAC on ASIO, check the Beosound Moment, you can change the settings for streaming to the Moment by selecting ">".

Then play something on Audirvana. The Moment will start and play the chosen track.

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Carolpa:
Robert_A:
@Carpola - How can I solve this without a additional dac?
For the Moment you do NOT need the proposed connection with a DAC. I just double checked it.

The same if you have a BS35, A6, M3, M5, Essence mkII, Harmony or Core (Shape)

Start Audirvana, select the speaker with "wifi" (on the right, below), set the DAC on ASIO, check the Beosound Moment, you can change the settings for streaming to the Moment by selecting ">".

Then play something on Audirvana. The Moment will start and play the chosen track.

You can also do this on the Audirvana Remote (iOS)

Audirvana must be running on your MAC/PC to controll it with the app.

the Moment is the "Active Audio Device"

"Find my way" is played on the Moment

 

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Thanks! My problem now is that the Moment don't show up in the list of Active Audio Device.. In the list I only have MacBook Speakers. The Moment and Mac are on the same wifi...

I only have a trial on Audirvana to check that I can make it work - maybe that's the problem?

 

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Robert_A:
I only have a trial on Audirvana to check that I can make it work - maybe that's the problem?
Will make no difference
Robert_A:
My problem now is that the Moment don't show up in the list of Active Audio Device.
And in the actual Audivana app on your Mac/PC? It can take some time to show......... but it should become vissible. Play some music (TuneIN, Deezer, Music)  on the Moment........

Audirvana in my settings show all devices.

Note: on a MAC you will not see an ASIO driver; don't bother to select something, just select the Moment if presented 

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The Moment won't show up, but I will keep nerding with this until I find a solution! Thank you so much for helping me out with this!

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