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Abakus2007
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Abakus2007 posted on Thu, Feb 25 2021 4:53 PM

 

Hi all,

have, as usual, searched the forum for some time to find an answer to my problem, without success...

Have started an installation of a blgw (I like my old beo products). Simple installation so far only ML;

BLGW + Beomaster5 + Beolab 3500 (in the kitchen) on ML cables.

The BLGW found the ML products easily with the capture function. But my beolab 3500 does not seem to listen to the beolink app. I can see it and I get the sources. Have tried various options, link option, put them in the same zone etc. no success. The only command that seems to work is the "All Standby" then it goes to stand by mode. Any hints much appreciated.

 

Thanks

Baaz 

 

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beolion
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Just checked one of mine.

Serial number is 2005xxxxx
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Thanks Beolion,

 

sounds promising, I've found one with serial number starting with 225

 

Should be a later version, I'll take my chances:)

 

Baaz

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Thanks ebnrob,

 

I'll test this in the weekend and see if it make some change.

 

Baaz

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ebnrob,

 

You were right! it was the order you turn on the devices on - I rebooted the blgw and now it works on both ML and RJ45 connections.

So we can roll out the cables and establish it's the wireless1 that is the problem. I guess there is no one that have had success with wireless1 in a mlgw/blgw system. I suppose the newer wireless transmitter 1/receiver is not an option working on a  single channel or would that work?

 

I'll have the newer bl3500 by next week, see if that makes any difference.

 

Baaz

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ebnrob replied on Sun, Mar 14 2021 8:36 PM

Glad to hear you got it working! I have no idea about the wireless masterlink though I’m afraid. If you need wireless I’d recommend you upgrade to the new network link with a beosound 35 for example.

My experience of using masterlink speakers with the beo living app is always painful though as it is incapable of remembering the source selected, so each time your phone or tablet wakes from sleep you have to start over by selecting the source again! For masterlink automations the gateway is great. I have a button on my bedroom wall switch that triggers the 3500 to join any other music playing in the house 😎 and the light commands are forwarded to the gateway so the hue bulbs in the room can be controlled from the beo4 light button!

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Back again,

 

got the newer version of bl3500 and it was sw 3.3 Smile so I'm  now in phase with the blgw compability, did not make any difference in the

wireless 1 connectivity with bm5 though. Let's forget about the possibility to use them (wireless 1) in a blgw/masterlink setup and move on.

 

Which I haveSmile and bought a blc nl/ml, a core and ordered a couple of beolab 18.

Maybe I should start a new thread but I'll try here first; my objective is to replace the bm5 with the core as audiomaster but still

have access to the bm5 and it's N.MUSIC, is that possible?

My system is mainly audio, looking at the blc menu it looks like You have to choose audio either visible on the ml or nl not both?

The closest You get, as far as I understand , is Source Center but then N.MUSIC ends up visible on the ML side and not

on the NL side.  

 

Any advise much appreciated

 

Baaz

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ebnrob replied on Sun, Mar 28 2021 11:34 AM

Abakus2007:

 

 

Back again,

 

got the newer version of bl3500 and it was sw 3.3 Smile so I'm  now in phase with the blgw compability, did not make any difference in the

wireless 1 connectivity with bm5 though. Let's forget about the possibility to use them (wireless 1) in a blgw/masterlink setup and move on.

 

Which I haveSmile and bought a blc nl/ml, a core and ordered a couple of beolab 18.

Maybe I should start a new thread but I'll try here first; my objective is to replace the bm5 with the core as audiomaster but still

have access to the bm5 and it's N.MUSIC, is that possible?

My system is mainly audio, looking at the blc menu it looks like You have to choose audio either visible on the ml or nl not both?

The closest You get, as far as I understand , is Source Center but then N.MUSIC ends up visible on the ML side and not

on the NL side.  

 

Any advise much appreciated

 

Baaz

Hi Baaz,

I ended up buying 2 converters, one exclusively for by BS9000 and another for the ML link rooms. This allowed me to map Radio on the ML side to Tune In on my Essence instead of using the BS9000 FM radio. CD source is then mapped to the BS9000's converter, N.Music mapped to Deezer, DTV to the APPLE TV source on my BV11 and A.MEM to my Chromecast audio on the line in of the converter. Works very well. My only gripe is that it's not possible to have Airplay mapped to individual sources on the converter. I have to be on Radio (TuneIn) then start Airplay from my phone to the Essence and it switches to Airplay on the ML speakers.

I managed to get a power box on ebay for £40, but had to wait quite a few months before one appeared. They may still be available to buy new, ask your dealership. No idea how much they are new.

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ebnrob,

 

figured out that I will need the same, multiple BLCs, and also power box. There the BL3500 could be setup without audiomaster. Have about the same thoughts about the setup as You have with a Core for TuneIn and the BM5 for ripped CDs.

Did start a new thread as the subject of this one didn't reflect the new issues. I guess You were lucky to find a power box they seem rare. I keep my eyes open and check with the nearest dealer.

Right now I'm struggling with the basic setup of the BLC (as slave with speakers) with only a BM5 (audiomaster) connected and of course the BLGW.

Looked at an example in the 1.4 version guide and stripped it down. Not sure what I'm doing wrong. I'll keep ob testing:)

 

Baaz

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ebnrob replied on Sun, Mar 28 2021 3:23 PM

Try the converter as a video master or Beocenter. With the latter you can map n.music and n.radio to your core. Once saved power off all your ml devices for a few minutes then turn back on with your audio mater first, followed link rooms.

 

Abakus2007:

 

 

ebnrob,

 

figured out that I will need the same, multiple BLCs, and also power box. There the BL3500 could be setup without audiomaster. Have about the same thoughts about the setup as You have with a Core for TuneIn and the BM5 for ripped CDs.

Did start a new thread as the subject of this one didn't reflect the new issues. I guess You were lucky to find a power box they seem rare. I keep my eyes open and check with the nearest dealer.

Right now I'm struggling with the basic setup of the BLC (as slave with speakers) with only a BM5 (audiomaster) connected and of course the BLGW.

Looked at an example in the 1.4 version guide and stripped it down. Not sure what I'm doing wrong. I'll keep ob testing:)

 

Baaz

 

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ebnrob,

 

Heureka!! that works! Thank You!!

 

this is really helpful, now I've got a "gateway"Smile to start from.

Really frustrating with zero result and no clue what's wrong.

So I'll need at least one more BLC as it is not bi-directional in this setting.

 

Thanks again!

 

Baaz 

 

 

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