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Abakus2007
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Abakus2007 posted on Thu, Feb 25 2021 4:53 PM

 

Hi all,

have, as usual, searched the forum for some time to find an answer to my problem, without success...

Have started an installation of a blgw (I like my old beo products). Simple installation so far only ML;

BLGW + Beomaster5 + Beolab 3500 (in the kitchen) on ML cables.

The BLGW found the ML products easily with the capture function. But my beolab 3500 does not seem to listen to the beolink app. I can see it and I get the sources. Have tried various options, link option, put them in the same zone etc. no success. The only command that seems to work is the "All Standby" then it goes to stand by mode. Any hints much appreciated.

 

Thanks

Baaz 

 

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Abakus2007
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Further my last,

realized that the beolab 3500 is quite old and sw version only 1.2 could that be the reason.

It is strange though that the blgw find i and recognize it at once.

 

/Baaz

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Hi Baaz,

I don’t know if it will help, but I understand that the app to use with the BLGW is BeoLink 2 (if you can still download it).

Although I have a BLGW, I haven’t started playing with it yet.

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Hi Lawrence and thanks for Your reply. I have actually tested both versions and the beomaster 5 works on both.

It's the beolab 3500 that does not work, though I can turn it of with the app. It could be that it is on old version

I've read that SW 3. something is required but I thought that was just for the light and control commands

 

Baaz

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Yes - unfortunately, according to this, I think you need software 3.3:

http://mlgw.bang-olufsen.dk/source/documents/MLGW%20product%20compatibility.doc

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Lawrence,

You are right, I've seen this but also other comments that it mostly concern automation.

Still it says You have to have 3.3 or higher for source commands, I guess You are right

I have to look for a newer version...

 

Thanks and have a nice evening

 

Baaz 

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Hello again,

 

so I've searched for a newer Beolab 3500 to work with my blgw, not for automation only audio.

Unfortunately all the available seem to have sw 2.0 or 2.1. I've found one with serial number 22535396

which sounds like a newer version, He is unable to check the sw as he has only this item left. Anyone

who would happen to now in what period this might have been produced or which sw version it could have.

 

Thanks

Baaz

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I have just last your bought 2 BL3500 to use with my ML system and I use a.aux a lot. For that I needed sw3.x installed. It was easy to ask sellers for the serial I think. They can check the version on the display very easy with

MENU, then MENU, then 0, then 0, then PLAY

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Thanks for the input beolion,

problem is that it's a private seller with no other Beo product left, no remote. May I ask if You now which region Your

serial numbers are. They could of course have been upgraded afterwards but it could give a hint.

 

 

Thanks

 

Baaz

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ebnrob replied on Wed, Mar 10 2021 3:17 PM

Abakus2007:

 

 

Further my last,

realized that the beolab 3500 is quite old and sw version only 1.2 could that be the reason.

It is strange though that the blgw find i and recognize it at once.

 

/Baaz

 

Hi Baaz,

 

I have one quite old BL3500 in the bathroom which works with my BLGW, I will have to check the FW version later, but it is one with the PHONO source so predates N.Radio and N.Music. I also have one of the later 3500 running software 3.3. This is only needed for forwarding Light commands to the gateway, which is why I bought it, or if you need to access the A.AUX source.  

Is the 3500 added to the resources page together with the address? You then need to define the sources manually for it under the interfaces tab. 

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Hi Rob,

 

thanks for the input. I've fiddled around a little with ML cables this afternoon and put the Beolab speaker next to the blgw and now both

(I've got a second one) works. It seems like it's the wireless 1 that's the issue, didn't mention that because I thought it just forwarded the

commands between the ML products. When I read the compatibility document thoroughly I see that it include the Wireless 1 and as

non-compatible on the other hand it says You have to have sw 3.3, but basic source commands work even with sw 1.2. I'm using ML

on the wireless, know it's supposed to be PL from the beginning. I'll check if that could make a difference.

My problem is that I really need some kind of wireless/powerlink solution, our house is an old one, built 1903, solid walls 3x8" lumber...

 

Baaz

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Now the CD commands work with wireless1, not volume nor shifting to radio only CD commands. 

 

Keeping on testing...

 

Baaz

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Further my last, the CD commands have of course nothing to do with the wireless1. It's via the app and i guess applicable for all speakers in the system.

No luck with power link cables on the wireless1, guess they are no compatible at all.

Another strange thing, when I connect blgw, bm5 and BL3500 with the same ML cable splitted to three with a junction box (actually I've used ordinary splice connectors to ensure 100% connectivity, also tested the cables) the speaker will not respond to the commands from the app. When I then connect the BM5 to the ML rj45 on the blgw everything works. If I do it the other way around, rj45 to the speaker it doesn't work, maybe that's because it's an old bl3500 and sw 1.2. Why the straight forward splitted ML cable doesn't work I don't understand. Anyone can share some light on this.

 

Baaz

 

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shed some light...

 

auto fill...

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ebnrob replied on Fri, Mar 12 2021 1:20 PM

Just checked my bathroom 3500 and it’s running software 2.0.

Are you powering all devices down on the mains switch when changing the cabling? There is some sort of negotiation that happens that decides which device provides power on the ML cable to devices. I used to have trouble after power cuts with my Beocenter 6 tv, for whatever reason the tv wouldn’t provide the power and none of the ml linkrooms would work. Adding an ml power box to the NL/ML converter fixed it.

When it doesn’t work for you, see if the 3500 responds to the beo4 Cd button. This might help determine if it’s the ML power issue I had.

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