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Beolab 4000 with BL11 or BL17 alone?

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Feedan
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Feedan Posted: Wed, Jan 13 2021 7:42 PM

Hi,

Today I have a Beosound Core, connected to Beolab 11 subwoofer and then on to two Beolab 4000 (with powerlink).

After I added BL11, the sound got a real boost - used only for music.

 

However, I'm wondering what a step up in speakers could be?

They must be able to be wall mounted.

 

How do you think Beolab 3 would play, without the subwoofer and with the subwoofer compared to my current system?

Is it more important there that the speaker's treble is aimed at the listener than today?

 

Or if I sell both BL11 and 4000, to buy Beolab 17 (only used now for about 2000 euros).

On paper, they seem to play about as low in frequency.

Any tips or something?

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Beolab 17 all day, every day!

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James1980 replied on Wed, Jan 13 2021 10:48 PM

I’ve owned both, and it’s night and day. Lab 17 all the way. 

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Feedan replied on Thu, Jan 14 2021 5:47 AM

Thanks. 
Would that “little” speaker BL17 be able to produce the same amount of bass and volume? About same frequencies?

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James1980 replied on Thu, Jan 14 2021 9:48 AM

Way more than the 4000, and you potentially wouldn’t need the 11 either. 17’s really are incredible for their size, my other ‘listening speakers’ are lab 9’s and while there is a difference in bass extension, it’s not anywhere as big as you might envisage. 

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Feedan replied on Thu, Jan 14 2021 12:49 PM

Sounds almost to good to be true, because the BL17 is that small speaker!

No ideas about changing to BeoLab 3? I guess they without subwoofer can be little flat? And with BL11, it’s more money than buying the BL17. 

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Fansastic replied on Thu, Jan 14 2021 1:42 PM
Feedan:

Sounds almost to good to be true, because the BL17 is that small speaker!

No ideas about changing to BeoLab 3? I guess they without subwoofer can be little flat? And with BL11, it’s more money than buying the BL17.

I have both BL17 and BL3. Not really comparable. BL3 profit from the ALT lenses in the high tones. Overall they deliver a warm sound, but not too punchy.

The BL17 compares more to the BL4000 in a way due to lack of the ALT and lack a bit of midrange. But the 17 is so more powerful as the 4000. Overall 17 has a modern sound with very good bass. I think you will not benefit from combo 17/11.

Sell your 4000/11 and get 17/3’s Big Smile

17 over 3 all the way

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Feedan:

Sounds almost to good to be true, because the BL17 is that small speaker!

No ideas about changing to BeoLab 3? I guess they without subwoofer can be little flat? And with BL11, it’s more money than buying the BL17.

I have BL17s, BL3s that I’ve used with bothBL2 and BL11 (not at the same time). The impact from the BL17s can be felt. They wipe the floor with the BL3s.

I have BL9s and 5s too, and agree with the previous poster’s observation about the BL17 with respect to the BL9.

If you doubt, you really should audition them against each other.

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Feedan replied on Fri, Jan 15 2021 7:53 PM

Just to be clear. 
mid I chose the BeoLab 3 speakers, but won’t run them with the BL11 or other sub, will the sound be that flat without bass?

I think BL17 is worth its money now as used ones. No new ones are produced any more. But the prices as new ones felt a bit to expensive for that kind of speaker. I’ve read people says they are better than the Lab 18..

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Curly replied on Fri, Jan 15 2021 8:23 PM

You will find no shortage of forum friends touting BL17 as amazing, myself included. For their size, they’re unusually good. Yes, BL18 is prettier but the bass is not there. The BL18 may be better for off-axis listening due to ALT and may have a slightly more crisp treble but that’s not even clear. BL17 is amazing.

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