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Michael
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Michael posted on Tue, Sep 1 2020 3:37 PM
Hello, I just bought a pair of Beolab 50 and I am getting them delivered in a few days.

I tried to find the necessary manuals for connections and installation but can’t find them anywhere online. Anyone know where to find the necessary information? All I can find is the technical sound guide. And how to setup presets.

That’s good but makes no sense if I can’t even install them 🤷‍♂️.

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Michael:

Ah, so confusing :)

Yes

This might be of interest

https://forum.beoworld.org/forums/t/43582.aspx

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Interesting and confusing. But Ive now spent two more hours trying to find info on which cables to use and buy to no avail. Its almostimpossible to know as the sound guide only specifies the kind of technology and not the physical cables themselves. For powerlink only impedance and features are explained. It doesnt say which ml cables could be used or should be used. Neitherdoesit say anything about what kind of cable is to beused for dpl between the speakers.

As far as i understand dpl is digital and IP based, and whati gather from other pages online its a 100 mbit ethernet connection. I dont know weather this can be sent over a switch or need to be straight between and i dont know what kind of cable is preferred. If its only 100 mbit and IP basedthen almost any ethernet cable should be more or less perfectly transparent,right?

Anyone herewho has more knowledge or info about this?

I dont want to blow up my new speakers..Smile

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I used a Bang and Olufsen supplied cable to connect the two speakers.

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@Michael

Just wondering why the dealer from which you have bought the 50, isn’t able to give any guidance as for which cables should be used?

P.S. Did you already have a look here:

http://www.soundsheavenly.com/faq/cabling-beolab-90-speakers/

 

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Razlaw replied on Tue, Sep 1 2020 10:39 PM
I found my original order...to answer your question about the microphone, it was $350 USD.

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Millemissen:

@Michael

Just wondering why the dealer from which you have bought the 50, isn’t able to give any guidance as for which cables should be used?

P.S. Did you already have a look here:

http://www.soundsheavenly.com/faq/cabling-beolab-90-speakers/

MM

There is a tv - and there is a BV.

Not asked yet but will do as soon as I have time. I prefer learning stuff from documentation and not sellers though. And the installers themselves are not in the store.

I did look there but didn’t find really what I needed to know. But I believe after reading about AVB that the digital connection between the speakers just need to be a solid Ethernet cable. And I believe that I need a fully cabled Powerlink to be able to communicate data between the Avant and the Beolabs (for adjusting the Lens/wide narrow). I might try to use WPL in the meantime as I have the thin PL leads with a DIN to RJ45 connectors today. Or just use them and adjust via profile. Might be better stability wise as I use WiFi 5Ghz.

I remember when I tried fully cables PL with RJ45 in one end and DIN in the other that I got some humming with my Beolab 9s. I returned those cables and used my old Mk3 cables and that was better, and has worked flawlessly with my Beolab 20s and still does.

So seemingly there should not be too many issues. My main issue practically though is that the cables must fit under a thin slice of wood as my walls have openings in them to my kitchen and a corridor on respective side of the TV. Thick and hard to bend cables will cause issues so thin and flexible is a priority - but so is sound quality..). I might have to find a new room layout.

And, I need to decide if I keep the 20s as surround speakers instead of the current 8000s that fill that work well today. Or sell the 20s. I do love them so much. Extremely good speakers and probably more beautiful and compact than the 50s..

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Cat 7 cable from the avant to master bl50 and it’s main pl port(rj45) and cat 7 from master 50, dpl panel(1,2 or 3) and to the slave bl50 in the same port for best performance

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Razlaw replied on Wed, Sep 2 2020 12:59 AM
Mikipidia:

in the same port for best performance

Now I am wondering if mine are in the same port ....lol. It will bug me until I take the covers off and check.

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it doesn't matter a whole lot, but it's recommended to keep all the same for obvious reasons Stick out tongue

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I checked. They were the same 🙂

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There is an installation manual for the BL90.

I would imagine that the BL50 is very similar. Includes unpacking, moving, initial (vague) setup, calibration etc. 

I would say the manual is way beyond what you would receive from a high-end Separates manufacturer or loudspeaker manufacturer as I think it is assumed the individual knows how to connect an XLR cable to an XLR socket etc....

Powerlink (PL) or DPL has been a little different (but simpler) and the BL90/50 work the same as all other Beolabs except for the DPL common connect (between the Master and Slave). 

Ultimately, connections are down to what you want to connect and it has been a traditional B&O USP that the Dealer (clueless that they usually are) set up the loudspeaker of this class for you and show you the features. 

Using the calibration service is simple but daunting at first. 

I will try to PM you a BL90 manual for what it is worth but unless you are out of sorts with your Dealer, then that would be the best place to try?

 

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