Advice for best Surround Speaker Setup for a Harmony: Ceiling/Hight ?

I love it :-) , interesting idea with the hights!

Today I also received a new HDMI Premium cable as my current one had some trouble with the Sony Blu Ray UDP 800m2 with 4K and Atmos content  to the C9 as I am on Mikipedia's track to see the difference in 7 channel pass trough from  eARC port instead gaining into the sound center directly.

With regards to the full range drivers on the side in the harmony/eclipse i’ve found that you can basically only have them on and add something when they’re set to center but at -3db or more compared to the center row of speakers. Providing youre left and right channels are sufficiently far away from the center, otherwise it all sort of blends in too much imho. That’s what i found, but i think i also read something similar on tonmeister but can’t find it anymore.

With regards to the atmos, sometimes i get no sound but that’s not because of b&o. It’s an LG thing they said they were going to fix, but there is a work around. When you go into the sound menu settings(on my c9) earc is set to “pass through” by default, but if you change that to “auto” or “pcm” you’ll get sound and it’s bloody wonderful

There should be a software update out for the C9 for this problem, released last week.

the eARC bug I have experienced as well, also the workaround. Little bit annoying...let's see if the update fixes it

Emil,

Do you know what update nr/sw nr that is supposed to be fixed with? Haven’t checked in a while and don’t think my panel has had an update in a while too, atleast I haven’t seen it

My C9 just updated... 

So what software/firmware number are you on now and is it fixed?

Is there something similar like Sonos Trueplay (Sound tuning software for Sonos loudspeakers) available for Bang&Olufsen equipment? Perhaps from third party?

Or is this automated sound tuning only „hocus pocus“ and just putting the loudspeakers in the correct locations is the only (main) think to optimize the sound?

I took the opportunity to play with some of the ideas and thoughts Geoff mentioned in his Sound Guide. As I had to move one pair of the Bl3 from the back (7.0 setup) to the front due to my BL5 waiting for repair to a 5.0 setup. As I have no subwoofer I adjusted some of the bass management settings to have the Harmony's loudspeaker provide more of the low end. So 4x BL3 plus the Harmony. Quite impressive how much this setup with the little BL3 moves the air and sound!

As I still have a pair if unused BL4 in storage and to much spare time over the weekend... I put them on the ceiling (luckily found the ceiling mounts in a box) as Goeff described in his guide.

Man, what a difference! A whole new world of sound filled the room. I was really blown away! With this small not most loved speakers in the B&O range magic happened. The Track which impressed my most was Kraftwerk's Radioactivity from their recent Blu Ray. (for the folks who do not know Kraftwerk, the are named as the innovator of the electric sound). Also Yello's last concert from Berlin on Blu Ray as well very impressive.

So long story short, I only can second Mikipedia's suggestion go for for ceiling speakers all time before you add a second pair on the floor for the backs. 

To put this in perspective, I visited a reference show room with a Denon/Auro setup as the Auromatic is probably the best up mixer for hights outside the B&O world, but B&O is not far off...

 

 

@kawo

Thanks for reviving this important (if you are into multichannel B&O) thread.

MM

Thanks!

Surround height is fantastic, i personally would recommend (5.0.2) them over 7.x every time with a modern BV. The emersion is out of this world, even for music

We need to keep this discussion alive :-) 

I think the potential of the Trueimage processor with the detailed possibilities to adjust the sound in many ways is completely underrated. However, this is not easy if you are not the master Geoff himself, I just started my journey with it. I would love to have a workshop with the Tonmeister to fully understand it. So much fun to play with it

With my setup, I can't wait to have my BL5 back into service and start shaking walls again :-).  

@kawo

A workshop with the Tonmeister most likely will not be possible.

However, playing with your options is more than allowed - do remember, that no two rooms are equal and our preferences are also different.

You have lots of Speaker Groups to deal with - just remember to keep record of what you do, in order to have an overview - nothing can’t go wrong there.

Keep on reading the Technical Sound Guide and keep on experimenting ;-)

Looking forward to hear, what you think, when the 5’s are back.

MM 

Hi there

This is exactly what i just did.

5.0.2 here and its amazing.

The true image processor is great.

I have Lab5 front, eclipse center, lab 6000 surround and lab 4000 rear surround height.

I know the image processor is doing some funky thing to create the high surround as it cannot decode Atmos but its great.

I would be interested to know what else to add just for fun.