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Beolab 5 in a non-B&O setup - Onkyo, AppleTV, Panasonic TV.

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Hugolainen
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Hugolainen posted on Wed, Jan 2 2013 8:48 PM

Dear All,

I have just bought four BeoLab 5 (2004) and are about to buy a Beolab 7-6 as center. I would like to use them both as a music system but as well connected to my 65" Panasonic TV and a receiver (which I haven´t bought yet) Thinking of the Onkyo 7or 8 series since it has an upscaling (which I need to get HDTV since I use Telia internet TV)

I want to connect Spotify, AppleTV, Blueray and DLNA for music which is actually controlled by the receiver.

I want to control the Beolab through my receiver since I control the sources from that. And I can control that from iphone and ipad.

When the receiver is switched on, the Beolab starts up. When I turn it off, the beolab shall turn off. Loudness should be controlled by the receiver. If I choose THX mode, that should go on. (Most likely an Onkyo question....) 

Can anyone help me out how I should connect this,  please? I do not want to use Beolink but are after the design and great sound of Beolab 5.

I would also like to know if anyone have tried a wireless solution to the speakers that they can recommend?

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Søren Mexico
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Check the Onkyo line level output, before you buy it, I have an 708 and it cannot drive my BL 8000 to full volume, the line level for the 708 is 200 mV, it should be at least 400 mV.

Connecting active speakers to line will give you problems with the speakers turning on and of, when longer periods of silence is there, you will need a RCA and trigger connection to the Onkyo and this connection to a 8 pin din plug to the speakers. The trigger on the Onkyo is 12V, trigger to B&O speakers are 4.5V.

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Hugolainen
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Thank you! Seems like you know this! :-)

Do you have any suggestion of another receiver you think can be better where I will not experience this kind of problem?

 

Best ! 

 

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THIS might help

Ralf

Living Room: Beosystem 4, Beolab 7-6 (Center), Beolab 8000 (Fronts and Rears) and Beolab 2. Screen: Panasonic TX-P65STW60
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Hmmmm, and that is a big HMMMM with the Beolab5's...

 

Using the beolab 5's this way would require a sound control to them... When you use the BL5's with third party equipment you are supposed to change the volume on the BL5's with your Beo4 (or other B&O remote) Line in will not change the volume properly.

 

But in this setup, you also have to have the Beolab5's connected to each other using the special "syncro" cable. Yours are early ones, just like mine, so I don't think they will work with the syncro cable. (Mine does not, even though there's electronics for it)

 

Syncro is meant to even out the sound if one of the speakers ir-eye misses an input change.

 

The Syncro cable is meant to be used with a stereo pair, but maybe someone can modify it to work with 4 speakers, and still keep the ohm setting in the cable, which is vital.

 

Too long to list.... 

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To make things easier (a lot easier) buy a S/H Beosystem 3. All your problems solved. *Puff!*

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bayerische
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Are you located in Finland BTW?

 

If so, where the heck did you find 4 Beolab 5's???

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Thank you! That was very helpful! Will review it more properly at the weekend!

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Hi, No, I am actually in Sweden. Haven´t bought them new (not in that financial stand yet) and there are quite a few for sale. So nothing strange about the 4 BL 5.

 

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bayerische:

To make things easier (a lot easier) buy a S/H Beosystem 3. All your problems solved. *Puff!*

Exactly in what way will everything be solved?

Maybe the Onkyo isn´t the best due to one of the answers in this thread? I am trying to get rid of all remote controls so am really interested in finding a way not to have to use those. Still - Beosystem 3 - how will that work with DD 5.1 and music? I am sorry, I am not that familiar with all B&O´s solutions.

From the beginning - it started with that I wanted to have a soundsystem that was really good and could play at a high volume. A real party machine! Airplay, spotify, DLNA could all be integrated. Since I do like B&O, if I have to see the speakers, the choice was easy. Then I wanted to combine the music solution with the TV. Not the best sound in a TV, as you know. And now my wife started to brawl..... :-) 1 remote.

And here I am! :-) Thank you for all good advices and please, enlighten me with all your ideas to make this work!

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Tomas replied on Thu, Jan 3 2013 8:29 PM

Regarding the volume setting, the best way is to set the BL5 to almost max as a starting volume when turned on, then you control the volume with the onkyo.

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Hugolainen:

Hi, No, I am actually in Sweden. Haven´t bought them new (not in that financial stand yet) and there are quite a few for sale. So nothing strange about the 4 BL 5.

 

OK, just put to A to the B with "Hugolainen"... 

 

Try finding 4 used in Finland... Stick out tongue That's why I asked. I bought mine from Denmark.

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Tomas:

Regarding the volume setting, the best way is to set the BL5 to almost max as a starting volume when turned on, then you control the volume with the onkyo.

But...

 

Also a great way to destroy the speakers by accident...

 

 

Too long to list.... 

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Hugolainen:

bayerische:

To make things easier (a lot easier) buy a S/H Beosystem 3. All your problems solved. *Puff!*

Exactly in what way will everything be solved?

Maybe the Onkyo isn´t the best due to one of the answers in this thread? I am trying to get rid of all remote controls so am really interested in finding a way not to have to use those. Still - Beosystem 3 - how will that work with DD 5.1 and music? I am sorry, I am not that familiar with all B&O´s solutions.

From the beginning - it started with that I wanted to have a soundsystem that was really good and could play at a high volume. A real party machine! Airplay, spotify, DLNA could all be integrated. Since I do like B&O, if I have to see the speakers, the choice was easy. Then I wanted to combine the music solution with the TV. Not the best sound in a TV, as you know. And now my wife started to brawl..... :-) 1 remote.

And here I am! :-) Thank you for all good advices and please, enlighten me with all your ideas to make this work!

The Beosystem 3 has all those integrated. It's basically all the electronics from the BV7/BV9 without the screen.

Have a look

 

It's going to be rather expensive, even used. But it will solve all your problems. As you'll get everything connected to it the proper B&O way, and you'll only need one remote control.

 

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Rather than get a "receiver", why not get a preamp/processor?  It looks like all of your speakers are powered so you shouldn't need the amplifiers in the receiver.

 

David

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