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Beolab 18 & 19 move to Beolab 5?

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mr_anders_son posted on Sun, Apr 12 2020 2:18 PM

I wonder if I shall move from Beolab 18 & 19 to Beolab 5.
Any thoughts about that? (Not design wise)

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I'd stick to what you've got. I had some 5s, and I felt unless you could truly play them at a volume that befits them, you'd be better with your current setup.

I found the 9s at the volumes I played them to be better to be honest, but then again the 5s never really got the chance to get going.

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oli replied on Sun, Apr 12 2020 4:28 PM

Sound wise, of course, nothing comparable with your current setup

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mrCTE replied on Sun, Apr 12 2020 4:47 PM

Super interesting question: I have been considering the same in the sense that I am pondering BeoLab 18+19 or a pair of Beolab 5s. 

I’ve never heard the 5s, only the rumours! But I did listen to the 18+19 set up and thought it was pretty fine. It would be good to know what other esteemed B&O customers think! 

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The best and only way to know, is to listen to both sets in your own room.

On the other hand, both are excellent.....you probably could be happy with each of them.

Just don’t think too much about the set, that you did not go for.

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How big is the room and is it a house or appartement? I personally would need more info to make a judgement Stick out tongue

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I have BL18/18/3 in my living room and to my experience the setup is key. I’m i n the process of tweaking the settings through my Eclipse. To get the most out of the speakers it is a delicate process of both placing the BL19 and adjusting the settings of the bass management. I want the bass to come from the BL18’s to the point that the ABL kicks in and the BL19 takes over AND the BL19 to give the very low bass even on low sound levels.

I find this a difficult process but in the progress I also learn to appreciate the performance of my speakers!

I can only guess that the BL5’s have the performance I’m looking for out of the box. They can calibrate the sound to the room specifications and play their best sound immediately.

In short, the BL5 should outperform the BL18/19 combo but if set up properly they should be close enough (I think haha).

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Jeff replied on Sun, Apr 12 2020 8:20 PM

The BL19 has two 8 inch woofers and the BL5s have two 15 inch woofers. If true deep bass is your goal there's no comparison. The 5s have enough bass they can untie your shoes and then tie them again.

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Jeff:

The BL19 has two 8 inch woofers and the BL5s have two 15 inch woofers. If true deep bass is your goal there's no comparison. The 5s have enough bass they can untie your shoes and then tie them again.

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The only area the BL5 disappointed in was low volume listening. I felt they didn’t perform until middle to high volumes. I’d be interested to know how they’d perform with something like DIRAC room correction in a the middle to high frequencies.
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Jeff replied on Sun, Apr 12 2020 11:56 PM

seethroughyou:
The only area the BL5 disappointed in was low volume listening. I felt they didn’t perform until middle to high volumes. I’d be interested to know how they’d perform with something like DIRAC room correction in a the middle to high frequencies.

Sounds like they need room correction less than a source with a loudness contour function.

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seethroughyou:

The only area the BL5 disappointed in was low volume listening. I felt they didn’t perform until middle to high volumes. I’d be interested to know how they’d perform with something like DIRAC room correction in a the middle to high frequencies.

This was my experience too.

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oli replied on Mon, Apr 13 2020 10:34 AM

I have to agree at 100% with that, and not only for the BL5 but in general. Before thinking upgrading the hardware to improve sound, consider passive and/or active room correction. It is key. As I said before, nothing comparable between BL5 and BL18+19 in a correct acoustic environnement, the BL5 will outperform the other combo, far far far away.

 

The BL5 calibration is only for ABL, calibrating on the average response of the room, giving sometimes worst results than not calibrating at all, depending of the room and the placement of the speakers and the listening position. It is not a DSP like in BL50 or BL90. But you can easily add this fonction adding a Dirac or something else that will adapt the couple speakers/room. Personnaly, I added a Lyngdorf TDAI2170 (danish company), in a 100% digital chain, with some acoustic panels (up to the WAF limit ^^) in the back. It is night and day, with a lot of dynamic added, even at low volume. And it is also giving the possibility to get a focus or wide sound to the BL5 (wide by default with the acoustic lenses), it is changing a lot of things when you are listening at a fixed position. It also includes a digital equalizer if ever you want to adapt the sound (I keep it in Neutral mode)

 

 

Acoustic panels:

 

 

As you can observe, the room is REALLY BAD regarding acoustic with these 2x 8 meters of windows on each side, quite large with almost 90m2, with a lot of empty, plate and reflective surfaces from the floor to the ceiling

 

 

Inside the B&O cabinet, the Lyngdorf (only used for the Room Perfect feature, feeded with USB from the Mac Mini, SPDIF output connected to the DAC of the BL5) on the top, the Mac Mini+Audirvana as source (embedded Tidal for streaming) and all the boxes for Beolink and TV reception, everything controlled with the Beo4 with a Lintronic IR box.

 

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talfaia replied on Mon, Apr 13 2020 10:15 PM

Hi Oli, this is great. For music, where do you have the volume control? In the TDAI2170 or in the BL5?

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